Good morning.
Some good and bad news (if true) and this comes with the caveat that my knowledge of the financial workings of life only extends to remembering my chip and pin number.
Below are two tweets from Charles Lavery whose bio states: “Investigate journalist”.
The good news is that the proud rowing club would cease to exist and with one stroke of a pen all the history would disappear. That would only leave Thatcher left to go.
The bad news is that the a new club would be formed allowing those to create a club in their image (unlike previously when they hijacked a rowing club) and unlike all others who have went bust, they will be allowed to keep their playing staff (which they couldn’t afford to buy or pay) will get a 10 point deduction only and will stay in the SPL.
The punishment for financial doping and tax evasion seems like a reward in this circumstance.
This scenario is the worst possible for our PLC. Can we grasp that for the greater good then this may get the result that we all want? The board not hanging around waiting on the siren call and maybe realising that they may have to do a bit more?
Why would they only get a 10 point deduction? Why would they be allowed to stay in the SPL? If they go into administration surely they would be relegated? Surely a heftier points penalty has been given to other clubs. I don’t understand why they would get off so lightly.
Anyway we should be focusing on our own troubles rathet hoping and praying for a miracle from the world of corporate accountants.
If the penalty for such mismanagement is so light surely it makes a farce of any attempt by clubs to opearte within budget.
Silly comments I will bin my season book etc.. the spl without Rangers is dead …Celtic without Rangers is bad for Celtic within 2 months the average gate would be 25,000….Unless we are let into another league… A 10 point deduction is the best we can expect and if that happens we can only hope that the poor performers we have at present can win the league…Over the past seasons we have watched the worse Rangers team in living memory win the SPL 3 times… its looking like 4 this season,so be glad we can at least look at a 10 point deduction to make the remaining season worth watching.
I Dont like it but lets be honest Rangers are playing better this year than the last 6 in my opinion and that’s down to a good team spirit and a solid 6 players playing for the Jersey with commitment Mc Gregor Whittaker Davis Lafferty Naismith Jelavic….
So, do you think ploughing your hard earned cash into a league that basically says financial cheating and tax evasion is ok is not a reason to reconsider this?
This is not a flippant, “Och we’re shit, I’m not going back”.
This will make the SPL a laughing stock.
(even more than it already is)
And Willie “honest mistake” Collum & his pals are doing their part.
I’ve heard this as well but there is no precedent for this. When Airdrie were going to the wall they bought another club, changed their name, and assumed their place in the league.
If Rangers, as a company cease to exist, then there place cannot be given to a new club which has just come into existence. That is the same as giving a SPL place to a Highland league club.
I’ve read that this would require an eleven club vote at a hastily arranged Chairmen meeting. The problem with that is that as soon as Rangers cease to exist they do not have a place on that board. It would therefore take a unanimous vote to get this through.
If Peter Lawel votes for this the he is finished and I certainly for one will never attend another football match in this country as it shows the game up for the corrupt business that we have always suspected.
The wheels of change turn very slowly in Scottish football but let us see how quickly they start to turn if the demise of Rangers becomes a serious possibility. Let us see the chairmen who, in the past, have blamed every ill of the Scottish game on the Old Firm vote to breathe life back into one of the beasts they claim to loathe. I wonder where that support was in the early nineties……… but there I am getting all paranoid.
100% behind your views. I too read that they would take their medicine of 10 points and carry on regardless.
If this is the case I will never attend another Scottish Premier League game. Celtic will become just another extension of what we’ve been fighting for generations.
If we cannot exist without them, I would let them die and take our chances. TV revenue for Celtic adds up to about what we pay in wages to 2 of any of our underachieving “stars”.
If they were not around, maybe UEFA would look more favourably on a move to a different league. Even starting at the bottom of the English structure would be an adventure we, as supporters would relish.
To stand idly by and watch a club continue with their cheating and mismanagement without missing a beat is more than I could bear.
They might well survive to become stronger, but every other club, including Celtic would suffer and become weaker. How many people would buy lottery tickets if they knew it was rigged so they couldn’t win??
Agreed met.
If Our board vote to keep Rangers alive I will be binning my season book and they will have lot all my financial backing.
I will not be the only one. This would make Lawwell’s previous and numerous blunders miniscule in comparison.
It really would be interesting if Mad Vlad and Yorkston at Dunfermline voted for this as both these guys have been outspoken about the Old Firm in the past. How would they square that with their fans?
Hearts are next for administration and Yorkston needs the money
I would look more to an atlantic league that trips to Bury.
lot = lost
“To stand idly by and watch a club continue with their cheating and mismanagement without missing a beat is more than I could bear.”
If Celtic were to allow this to happen, then my 50 odd year love affair with my club would be over.
Anyone with half a brain knows the background business can go under and be sold and even change its name and still uphold the trade mark thus keeping all the history or honours and more importanly its Copy and Media rights. This is part of Celtic problem we are so stupidly interested in the other side we can’t deal with whats wrong with ours.
If it was so easy why doesn’t everyone do it?
If Rangers try this surely HMRC would get an injuction to stop any transfer of assets as this is tant amount to them admitting guilt and compounding the tax avoidance issue.
If Bain and the other guy can have cash frozen then surely HMRC can have other assets frozen pending an outcome of the Big Case.
Remember there is a couple of million owed to other creditors as well.
As some one else stated elsewhere the guy in charge of Rangers at the time this started as well as being in charge of Hearts for the period that they are under investigation is now head of the SFA: Campbell Ogilvie.
Should this guy be in his position?
Celtic board do not have Celtic’s best interests at heart. Please everyone unite and drive these clowns out!!
I was thinking about this in ASDA yesterday.
If this happens and like thousands we all give up on the SPL then were do we go? FC Celtic anyone, a club that would have no chance of reaching the league structure unlike AFC Wimbledon of FC United. Seems foolish to me.
I’m sure even the fans that see us as two cheeks of the same arse would leave in their droves. On the other hand this could be a great opportunity for the SPL to flex their muscles to allow more finanical fair play and distribution of the money coming into the game. In what we lose in a fairer distribution we would gain playing some game in the USA or Oz.
This is a ripping up the rule book moment.
Anyway, driving home from ASDA I drove by a club that I paid £40 to save. It wasn’t difficult to see me spending Saturdays there in a league who deal with cheating and mismanagement with an iron fist.
What was the club?
I remember paying over £600 into Celtic in the early nineties, during a really hard point in my life, to help save the club I loved. I knew guys who couldn’t afford one batch of shares so pulled together to buy one between them. The romance is now beginning to wear very thin however!
I’m fed up with the usual nonsense every transfer window from the board that we are going to improve the squad only to come out the other side weaker in comparison to the teams arround us.
The crap they spout every window now is only swallowed by the most deluded within our support.
Football is a simple game but you need a masters is bullshit to work out what is going on at our place now.
Stirling Albion.
I canny wait for this transfer window so we can get linked with numerous big names. Surely Keane is available?
I can’t wait to see who we get either. It will probably be Hooiveld back from Southampton and they’ll unveil him as a new player. I thought the big guy on the right side of midfield for Hibs had a great game on Saturday. It was a bit like Kayal last year. I’m dreading Fir Park on Sunday!