Posted on Sunday, 2nd October 2011 by lordofthewing
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It seems a bit off to blame a utterly toothless display on a ‘moment of madness’ but if you engage the rational part of your brain, which will be difficult at this time for some but is always difficult for the majority, but the moment off the sending off was the moment we were losing 3 points.
Two poor teams trying to find the opening to the pot of gold. The importance of the first goal was increasing as the clock was ticking, they took their chances we were wasteful with our slim pickings.
The Randon Team Generator was called into action again. Apart from the goalkeeper and Bang Bang all the other changes were forced. Players seem to be sleep walking through games and others seem to be unfit for action. It’s a frustrating mix.
Any feeling of boosting on this season has been lost. The feeling of salvaging the season is already upon us. We are in shark infested waters with a hole in the boat. Too many players out of form, to many injuries and a management team unsure of it’s self.
It’s a volatile cocktail that could all lead to grounds for divorce. That’s only if your wallowing in the self pity of the we deserve better brigade. My mantra is football fans are stupid and deserve nothing. When you start believing that your thoughts become irrational, ludicrous and not worth bothering about. Not that I am blinkered.
We lacked spirit. We lacked the correct mentality. We lacked the discipline. More worrying off all we lacked the passion.
That was something we had last season. That was something we got from the sidelines. The Gaffer has morphed into a restrained creature. It’s almost as if the reaction to his normal manager like behaviour, which saw unprecedented vitrol, hatred and condemnation as he rejuvenated a mess, has seen him reassess himself.
It’s Neil Lennon V2.0 and it’s not working. It’s almost like this version of Lennon is what he has been worn down too by the populist opinion. Be like Mowbray and take your medicine. One of the many things said about Lennon is that he only does ‘embattled’.
Thank f*ck for that as we are now back there. Except this time it’s his own support that are backing him into the corner.
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October 2nd, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Time for Lennon to go. He is a one trick pony when it comes to tactics. His team selections are baffling to say the least. I’m sorry to say but we are no further forward than the disaster that was Mowbray.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 4:30 pm
His team selection was justified today. It was enforced basically. We are further forward than we were with Mowbray. On the park anyway.
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brido67 Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 4:35 pm
please Stokes on bench again bye bye Lenny
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 4:39 pm
8 games no goals. One of the sleep walking players I mentioned.
Joe G Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Can’t agree with you. This is a toothless Celtic side losing more games this season so far than in any year I can remember. We are shocking and Lennon is the man in charge. He has taken his eye off the ball and the focus has gone. Those who have been targetting him, including the disgraceful courts and jusicial system in Scotland, have succeeded. He needs to do what is right for Celtic and quit today. You start to get a feel for how bad we are when you see there is a teb point gap between us and rangers who themselves are the worst they have been in more than half a century with a rookie manager who has nothing in his head.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Who do you bring in to work in the hamstrung conditions that he has to deal with? No manager worth his salt would come to us, with the handcuffs that are placed on.
See them, see Hearts etc……it’s the best we can hope for.
tim Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 5:35 pm
you have to be joking mate,i told you last night, and you told me to change the record, LENNON PICKS THE TEAM, TACTICS, CHANGES, he just hasnt a clue and now we sit 3rd, and 10 points behind,,, LENNY IS A DISGRACE,,, THIS IS NOT THE END,,,ITS THE BEGINNING FFS,,LENNON OUT NOW
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Ok, what would you have done today with the injuries?
The problem today wasn’t the selections. It was the reactions of the selections when the writing was on the wall that was the problem.
October 2nd, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Keep Lennon as manager = self destruction
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October 2nd, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Watched Celtic in Europe last week then watched Shamrock Rovers battle hard against Spurs. Shamrock Rovers showed twice as much fight and spirit as the crap that is at Celtic at present. Another year at being the bridesmaid I am afraid. Fans will start talking with their feet!!!
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 4:42 pm
They already have mate. Crowds are at 35 to 40 thousand. The PLC are thankful that there is an economic recession on to save their bonuses.
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tim Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:03 am
nothing to do with injuries, he had players on the bench who should be able to make a difference, he has a big squad and if they arent good enough its his fault— fact-This is not the end. This is the beginning.
Next season, look forward to european nightmares, home defeats to st Johnstone, 3rd in the league and a whopping 10 points behind Rangers’ you know i have said it for a very long time, it bursts me to say it, but if we dont do something quick we wont even get 4th place
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:10 am
Nothing to do with injuries? I now really need to ak the question if your happy at home?
bhoylondon67 Reply:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
You genuinely think Celtic won’t finish 2nd at least? That is just silly.
tim Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 11:53 am
happy at home but not happy at paradise,when we won the league and rangers had players out, we put on our tee shirts no excuses, even they have had their share of injuries and with a threadbare squad, they have won 3 in a row,sit 10 points ahead,we wre glad brown was out, he brings nothing but suspensions to us, so dont make a fool of cfc by talking rubbish
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 11:52 am
Not making a fool of CFC by having an opinion, which I consider for the best of the club at this time.
DJ Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Rangers have won three in a row as a result of the extra spending power achieved by fiddling the tax man and probably other frauds as well. Nobody knows the full extent of their frauds and we may never find out but I am sure it will be more than what is already known in the reports of the tax evasion. A company that commits fraud rarely keeps it down to one fraud. Instead of been threadbare as we were led to believe Rangers have had their so called war chest to keep the players they wanted and attract better players. The conned people into believing their lack of funds.
lordofthewing Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:47 pm
There has been smoke and mirrors. No doubt about that. Whether to the extent you say, is yet to be seen.
October 2nd, 2011 at 4:49 pm
What happened to the “thunder?” more like a fart in the wind.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 4:58 pm
I like that.
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October 2nd, 2011 at 4:50 pm
I stated when Lennon was caretaker manager that i didn’t want him to get the job & i could see this happening. After Mowbray the board should have got an experienced boss to tidy up the wreckage left by Mowbray. They took the cheapo option. So when Lennon got job i said at time he should get Davie Hay as his assistant but no he phones up clueless Thommo, a stoned Dolph Lundgren Mjallby & his loser mate from Leicester days. They are amateurs & bad ones at that. Regards Mowbray, at least he won 0-2 in Moscow in a match that counts (unlike Neil) & also 3-0 down in Vienna he got them to go out 2nd half & drew 3-3. Not just the shit defence Lennon has cobbled together, his team hardly score! Neil your totally & utterly out your depth. Hearts & Rangers easily beat us & those 2 have got worst sides i’ve seen in living memory, St Johnstone, Sion, no more embarrassments. adios Neil
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 5:03 pm
The daft bit is the only true bit in your name. It’s not as if we haven’t lost games in Europe before or help ma boab been beat at Swinecastle or Poundland. We weren’t well beaten today, that’s just bollocks.
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Celtic Daft Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Get your head out yer arse wee man. Today was embarassing. Honestly 2-0 off that rubbish team that Ayr united beat a little over a week ago, jam tarts playing pub team midfielder Ryan Stevenson as a striker & showing us how to hit the net. You clap happy as much as you like wee chap, maybe you have a conversation with the wall on how sexy we played today. I prefer to live in reality, not a green blinkered dreamstate like you.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 6:00 pm
I’m not in a green blinkered dream state. Today was not embarrassing. It was not a great watch and it’s a perfect summation of what is wrong with the club at the moment but it wasn’t embarrssing. Ross County is embarrassing. Today is disappointing.
I think I make clear that I know that there is problems but I know they run deeper than Lennon. Just feel he is being made a scapegoat…an easy target.
tim Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:14 am
spot on mate, glad someone can see beyond the ,,we are all neil lennon,,, hes one of us,, nonesense, we were crying out for a manager who could take us forward and we have went back,1 scottish cup in 3 years,,,oh yes lennon has done a lot for us,,well hes going to go down in history as one of the worst managers we have had, and i have heard at our games, guys calling him a legend, all i could do was laugh, simpson craig and gemmell and co were legends, lennon never,,,get to
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:10 am
To quote a legend: “The past was yours but the futures mine….”
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tim Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 11:54 am
well i hope the future is not lennons
October 2nd, 2011 at 4:57 pm
I understand the anger but still feel a great sadness that it has come to this so early. I can’t see Lennon winning through this season. He does appear to have lost belief and his players are definitely a scared, frightened and gutless bunch. Hard to swallow when it is Fat Sally who might not have to do very much to become a Ranger’s managerial legend at the first attempt. And we still laugh at their financial predicament. If they go into administration they are level on points and still above us on goal difference.
I feel Sean is right. From the next home game you will ee a remarkable difference in attendances. If we drop any points before Christmas there will be about 35,000 at Celtic Park during the holiday games.
We always say this but this really was a major season. They will again be in the Champion’s league and it will be us who are financially stricken.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 5:04 pm
We won’t be financially strickened. Thats the PLC main plan, profit before peace.
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October 2nd, 2011 at 4:58 pm
The Celtic Board= Rangers Dream Team.
Celtic FC reduced to impotent mediocrity. How many of the Celtic players know anything about winning ?
It’s gonna be a LONG WAY BACK FROM THIS
Not buying Steven Fletcher 3 yrs ago was another “Mo Johnson” moment
Vote with your feet guys.Loyalty is all very well but the facts are that Celtic are dying a slow death.I have a certain sympathy for the players after last season’s match-fixing but that’s how it always is for Celtic.They have to be able to beat the refs as well.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 6:23 pm
We always have to beat 13 men, right?
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tim Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:02 pm
spot on john, some people cant see past the , we are neil lennon,thing, if it wasnt him would they be calling for the managers head? yes they would and have, lordofthewing i thought you were better than this, ,,we have to beat 13 men garbage, did the ref prefer catholic italians to catholic celtic,, piss off fool and smell the coffee, makes me cringe saying this but we didnt deserve to beat rangers or hearts, but thats life and we have to change it now
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:29 pm
I can’t comment for others but I certainly don’t do ‘we are all neil lennon’ thing when thinking of what I want done with my football club.
Sorry for disappointing with the 13 men comment, I was trying to be flippant as I don’t buy or take that default mode.
I have also never claimed that we played well enough on the day to beat any of the mobs you mentioned.
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bhoylondon67 Reply:
October 4th, 2011 at 11:53 pm
Who should Celtic bring in to replace Lennon then?
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 5th, 2011 at 9:31 am
They can’t and won’t answer. That’s the boards job.
October 2nd, 2011 at 5:03 pm
lordofthewing you answer your own question Lennon only has the job because he will do as he is told by P.L and co and no other manager worth his salt would.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 6:06 pm
Brainy fucker anit aye?
So, we won’t get better then is the point that I am making.
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brido67 Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 6:32 pm
might not but cant get worse than Lennon the muppet/puppet
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 7:09 pm
90 odd points, highest since St Martin Of O’Neill. Muppet indeed.
October 2nd, 2011 at 5:29 pm
NL is just another scapegoat. The real villans are the board. They hired an inexperienced manager with an inexperienced management team, and they didn’t give him enough money to buy a single quality, experienced player- so he has an inexperienced football team as well.
It’s a recipe for disaster in any league.
So who actually benefits from zero debt ? Not the manager. Not the players. Not the fans. DD and his merry men, I would guess. (Oh, and the Orcs, obviously).
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 6:01 pm
The whole thing needs looked at. While I think they have backed Lennon they have handcuffed him at the same time.
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paranoidandroid Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 6:43 pm
No experienced manager- not a good one anyway- would work under the restrictions NL has on him. They dont back him. he either gets nothing or the cheapest players available. a lot of the time, he even gets players for positions that he has enough cover in- just because they’re cheap. It’s no way to build a team. It’s a farce.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:19 pm
This
Mike Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:36 am
The board haven’t backed him?
Compare the transfer fees and wages of the Hearts or St. Johnstone teams with what NL has.
Your point doesn’t hold water
lordofthewing Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:14 am
The board have backed and handcuffed him at the sametime.
October 2nd, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Don’t believe for a second that financial difficulties are something which Celtic are immune from. You are deluded if you do.
Celtic only need to compete with Rangers. We have not done this for nearly 4 years despite them being in the financial mire. They are still laughing at us with bailiffs arresting their bank accounts. It is looking unlikely tht Celtic will be able to stop them from doing 4 and that means 15-20m in the Champs League. It also makes them more attractive to the type of players being scouted by both clubs. Success breeds success. Every Celtic supporter is acutely aware that if they are allowed automatic entry into the Champions League while Celtic are again out of Europe by the end of August that the team will be playing in front of 30,000 every week. The spiral is a downward one. Less fans, less money, poorer players. This is the reality. This season, more than any other, could save Rangers and damage Celtic. Imagine how different it could have been.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Sorry I don’t think I made it clear. What I meant was that the PLC will just ensure we are hamstrung even more budget wise. Slow lanetastic.
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October 2nd, 2011 at 5:41 pm
what was it stokes sid after falkirk beat rangers,, this might be the lift we needed,,,rubbish,, they have won 3 league games in a week since, we drew with udinessie reserves and lost to hearts, we have the worst celtic defence in history and lenny put them there,,,
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 6:04 pm
FFS, over-reaction defocn 12 alert.
Worst Celtic defence in history.
Did you see Mark McNally and Co?
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Celtic Daft Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 9:36 pm
defending this defence lol. You need a wee break
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:09 pm
International week soon……
Kevin-Barry Causer Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Wdowcyzk, O’Neill, Whyte, McNally, now THAT was a truly abysmal “defence” (the word defence is used in its loosest possible sense) x x
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Shuggie was a decent player. I’m not having him talked about with those others….plus Del Bhoy had a decent couple of seasons before he got right into the sunbed lark.
Kevin-Barry Causer Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Despite his versatility and the St Patricks Day blockbuster free-kick against “them” I still consider Mr Wdowcyzk guilty by association after the pantomine in Switzerland against Neuchatel Xamax, why am I waffling on about events from 20 years ago? Well after yesterdays defeat and recent performances I’m trying to cheer myself up albeit in a perverse way by remembering an era when things really were desperate and bleak,I still don’t feel any better x x
lordofthewing Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 3:02 pm
I was thinking about that this morning. I’m treating my trip to Rennes as a jolly with the football being secondary like it used to be in the early 90′s. Fuck this going to away games expecting to win.
I blameO’Neill for that.
October 2nd, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Never mind. If Lennon does decide to go the board will once again show their ambitious nature and appoint someone like Malky McKay.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 6:05 pm
You’ve summed up the problem neatly. If you meant it well done.
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Martybhoy Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Of course i meant it.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Good man. We attract intelligent sorts.
brido67 Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 6:44 pm
So lets all get this right the board are to blame and are taking the piss out of the fans So whats new but heyhoe we might win the balance sheet league again this season bt to do that we will have to sell izzy in jan
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Paddy Tandouri looks like he can do a shift.
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October 2nd, 2011 at 6:21 pm
For all you Lennon bashers. Relax and read.
http://alternative-mattmcglone.blogspot.com/2011/10/why-i-think-neil-will-come-to-mutual.html?spref=tw
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paranoidandroid Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 6:33 pm
You should send a copy of that to every Celtic supporter in the country. In the world even. We dont need any more scapegoats. We need the board to stop the incompetence and change their self-destructive policies. just remember, companies can go out of business- even with zero debt.
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Celtic Daft Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:00 am
zzzZZZ what a load of crap. Working under Lawell? Well St johnstone, hearts, Sion, rangers all have less of budget, wages, turnover. As one Celtic fan put it brilliantly, if hegot more money he’d have got Bullard, sol Campbell, david James and Jay Bothroyd. LoL. Lennon get tae
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brido67 Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 7:04 pm
for the sake of my health just go.a legend aye right thats a least put a smile on my face
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Is it only the legend bit you disagree with?
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October 2nd, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Lennon out now – sack the board! Thank f*ck for the Green Brigade as without them supporting Celtic would be so much worse atm.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Football without fans is nothing.
Unfortunantly most are idiots.
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October 2nd, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Matt McGlone’s blog is interesting. I think Lennon has looked increasingly out of sorts lately. In his interview with Chick Young he sounded beaten. And I don’t mean just today. The belief seems to have disappeared. Some change from May. Obviously some of the players he expects too well for him have disappeared lately. Izzy is injured and both Commons and Kayal are shadows of the players they were 5 months ago. Most of the rest are not very good to start with. Ki plays now and again and even Hooper has not been as effective. Therefore, he has to turn to young, inexperienced new signings. This is where signing an experienced striker and CB was crucial. It does not look good. But how long do you give it. If Celtic are 10 points behind (or worse) going into the game against Rangers I would be surprised if we get a decent result. Then Lenny will be sacked before the new year. But who next? What fool would take the job? Has tp be a foreign coach for me. Enough of people who have spent their life in Britain. A more European outlook is needed.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 9:58 pm
I’m always wary of this inside blogs. I know no one important. Why would a manager take that shit? Walk out and tell the truth. But…..whatelse you say is true.
How long do you give it? Until it becomes a car crash, the man needs time to turn it round. This season is turning out how I expected last season to turn out.
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October 2nd, 2011 at 7:45 pm
At least for once Sammy isn’t getting the blame!
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 9:52 pm
I really did miss that today.
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October 2nd, 2011 at 8:34 pm
lordofthewing. Yep 90 odd points and second place in a 2 horse race some fans are not so easily pleased or in racing parlance fell at the final fence
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October 2nd, 2011 at 8:37 pm
well at least we got to the final fence looks like we never got over first hurdle this season
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 9:11 pm
At least we have another 3 laps to go.
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brido67 Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:27 pm
another 3 times the punnishment to look forward to oh happy days
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Ha!
MOTD2 and bed for me.
October 2nd, 2011 at 9:01 pm
The League is over on the 2nd of October.F*cking disgrace.
Bet those twats on the board feel pretty f*cking silly now, with their child like jibes at TFOD.
Celtic are a shambles from top to bottom, bereft of leadership not just on the park, but off it as well.
He’s lost the dressing room (full of mediocrity at best) and there can only be one outcome.
How embarrassing was it to watch a provincial Italian teams reserve side, not even break sweat in a game they thoroughly deserved to take something from.
We are at a cross roads now and we need direction from the ultimate being- over to you Mr Desmond.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Lost the dressing room? Something is missing and it’s in the manager getting this bunch of vagabonds to raise their game. He has it. We need to find it quickly.
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October 2nd, 2011 at 9:18 pm
2nd place in a 2 horse race is last
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:23 pm
each way bet?
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October 2nd, 2011 at 9:28 pm
This is bad guys, really bad.
Can anyone really see us turning this around?
Lennon has lost the plot, the team line-up changes every game, injuries or not.
The way Rangers are playing at the moment they won’t throw this away.
We need an experienced hand in now or face the horror or 5 in a row.
League is gone and none of this NLP glass is half full chat will change this.
I have no faith in the manager or that gutless squad of players.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:24 pm
The Wally with the brolly is now available. C’mon name names instead of faceless experienced manager threats.
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bhoylondon67 Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 2:51 am
Thommo?
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:13 am
who?
bhoylondon67 Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:10 am
Alan Thompson.
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October 2nd, 2011 at 9:34 pm
i hear people talking about us winning 92 points last season…. scottish football is at an all time low and outside the old firm(even though we r both poor)the rest are now utter pish and why is it that we are on a downhill spiral falling apart at the seems and we have a manager and backroom team of amatures who are out of their depths. now i ask you this , if it was any other rookie manager in charge who had no history with the club would you still back him ??? i dont think so. what we need is an experianced manager who has managed at a high level(germany or holland would suit….lets not forget what wim jansen done for us).
we need to change now.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:09 pm
I think we have made it quite clear that none of us wanted an inexperienced manager but we got one. Your no backing due to his past is bullshampoo. We turned on Mowbray quick enough.
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October 2nd, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Faceless experienced managers threats?
People are paid big money to make these decisions and find us a manager. You or me can’t possibly influence this decision making process so whats the point in naming names like MON etc.Pointless exercise
We all know the board will leave it before 4 in a row is a 100% stick on before changing things.
As for threats, the threat is real. Rangers leaving us for dust and we as supporters are powerless to stop it.
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brido67 Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 10:49 pm
agree 100%
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bobocop Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 11:52 pm
Sorry Big Sammy, I don’t agree. It was the fans who got rid of the old board by staying away and starting a campaign. As soon as that happened the bank threatened to call in the loans. The board went, wee Fergus arrived and the rest, as they say, is history. Unfortunately, the fans often get it wrong and it was the fans who kept Lennon in the job. He won his first 15 games or thereabouts, then the headcases took a hand and sent bombs. The fans rallied round and thereafter Lennon could do no wrong in their eyes. You were all Lennon.
I said at the start of last season that I thought the board saw him as a stop-gap, no contract and no commitment. The board would have been lynched last season if they had replaced him. So they let it ride. He wins a cup and the cracks are papered over.
Celtic football club have not seen serious investment since O’Neils first season. One or two big name loan signings to keep the fans appeased, but nothing substantial and long term. The fans went for it. You crowed about tax bills and debts, egged on by the likes of John Reid and Lawwell and their talk of fiscal responsibility. You can’t put that in the trophy cabinet though.
I could go on, and sometimes do, but I’ll say this. Only an idiot would think the league is over now. We might go on and win it but I’ll wait ’til it’s a done deal before I celebrate. You lot should stick with Lennon meantime. All of your best players are out at the moment and Celtic will be a different team when they’re back.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:05 am
Great post.
But I can’t let this go.
I can’t wait for the cheating, tax evisasion and financial doping to come home to roost.
bhoylondon67 Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:30 am
The Celtic board have nothing to do with Celtic supporters reaction to Rangers tax issues. It was the fact Rangers, the media, pundits, journalists, the SFA, and the SPL etc were desperately trying to hide and avoid the problem (which is the biggest ever sporting story in scottish history) that made Celtic supporters become so intrigued and embroiled by it. If it wasn’t for the Celtic supporter the tax case and Whyte being a skint chancer would probably still be a secret despite it’s huge importance to the well being to every football club in Scotland.
I do agree the Celtic board have a lot to answer for, especially the way they refuse to invest properly and only the investment is always based on Rangers PERCEIVED weaknesses, but they can’t be blamed for our supporters reaction to the cheating going on at Ibrox, for all their faults they certainly haven’t “egged on” Celtic fans.
lordofthewing Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:08 am
Maybe, but it sounds like a threat when numerous people come on here and bleat on and on about it.
Do you really not think, no matter how incompentant he his, that our CEO didn’t try and make your wish a reality and found that no one would take the job?
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October 3rd, 2011 at 12:59 am
Jez we are in a bit of a mess.Even before todays game,I have questioned Lennon’s team selections and tactics. Today he looked lost in the dug-out, I think the job was and is just too big for him and his 3 rookie assistants.
The team display was awful,too many players hiding,just not willing or capable of putting in a decent shift, and why do we keep signing these players on 4 year contracts, when they are just not good enough.We keep buying young players,all with so called “potential sell on value”. It’s bullsh t. We needed and need experienced players, who can help win titles now, not in 2 or 3 years time.
I do believe Lennon and his 3 amigos will be lucky to survive till the end of the season, if todays performances continue.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:12 am
Eh, experienced players cost money and will only come to the SPL if you pay them an SPL Tax. And that’s only the good ones. The only experience we can afford or attract is Dan. That worked out wll didn’t it.
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October 3rd, 2011 at 3:03 am
I still think Lennon should be given the season, if we can win all our games until january transfer and buy 3 good players who will walk into the team then we might salvage it. Lennon seems to have lost his way a bit, he is over complicating team selection and tactics, i don’t think it’s far fetched to think we can still win the league, Lennon showed last year he is capable of good things and we still have them 3 times. January transfer window should be the time to spend big, even if it’s just to lay the foundations for next season.
HH!
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:15 am
Positivity like yours is in short supply at the moment.
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Martybhoy Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:40 am
“spend big?” that wil be a couple of loan signings from the lower leagues down south then.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:47 am
That’s the pondlife we are looking at.
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bhoylondon67 Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:45 am
It shouldn’t be though, im under no illusions the chances of us “spending big” are slim to say the least, by spending big i was thinking 3 players costing around 3 million who will walk straight into our 1st team, doing that in january will also give us a solid base for next season, we need a severe clear out of the 6-8 players currently at the club who are taking wages they don’t earn.
That’s what NEEDS to happen, do that and we could still salvage the season and be set nicely for next season, what NEEDS to happen and what the board do are not the same thing as has been made clear over the past 5 years, the start to this campaign should shake the owner and board from it’s slumber, whether it does or not is entirely different thing!
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October 3rd, 2011 at 3:05 am
* “we still have them 3 times”, as in we have to play THEM 3 times.
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October 3rd, 2011 at 7:08 am
Win against them three times and we are still a point behind! Do you think Celtic will beat Rangers three times this season? If you do you are really an optimist. This seldom ever happens. The more likely out come would be one win, one draw, one defeat. Also win all the games until Christmas. This is a team bereft of heart, belief and fight-according to the manager, who also appears to have lost the same.
Easy tactics for any team playing against Celtic at the moment is to throw everything at them early, try to score and watch Celtic wilt and fall apart. Jesus, even ICT employed this and it almost worked. They should have been two up in the first 10 minutes!
If Celtic lose a goal first, at home, the crowd will tear them to bits and what little confidence any of them have will disappear like snow aff a dyke, as they say. It is painful to watch.
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bhoylondon67 Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:24 am
We are capable of beating them 3 times if our injury hit players are available, we proved that last season.
I am as angry and frustrated as anyone but nothing can be done that will improve us except getting behind the manager and demanding investment from the board in january, we need about 3 players who can step right into our 1st team regardless of how the next few months pan out because we need to be setting the foundations for next season regardless. We won’t get an established, good manager in january anyway, it will be the end of the season before we can do anything about that.
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October 3rd, 2011 at 8:17 am
Morning Troops?
We all calmed down? Remember we are all here for the greater good of life.
5 facts, findings and thoughts plus player ratings this evening.
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October 3rd, 2011 at 8:38 am
The bottom line is that Lennon should never have been appointed in the first place but that is the fault of the board. I fear (but hope i’m wrong) we are in for a winter of discontent. For too long there has been a malaise/apathy/lack of ambition/contempt shown by the board. We are now at a point where we can no longer accept what’s happening at our club.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:48 am
He’s here. We need to back him and look towards the REAL devils in this.
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Celtic Daft Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:16 am
No! To back him is BLIND FAITH! The devil Lawell? If he gave lennon the cash he’d have bought Bullard, Campbell and david James!! Where are they now!!? And he enquired about jay Bothroyd whos been crap at QPR. Lennon is useless. Period. He will never manage top flight again.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 11:47 am
I don’t do blind faith because if I did I would have been married a long time ago. I look at the bigger picture and consider other things rather than knee-jerking around. I may come around to your way of thinking but not at this point.
Also, arn’t you putting blind faith in your solution?
Plus the players you mentioned, tell there own story.
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October 3rd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
LordoftheWing i meant the players Lennon wanted BULLARD, SOL CAMPBELL, DAVID JAMES are pish and finished, washed out has beens. And lennon was rolling out red carpet for these has-beens and telling sol he could take decision after his wedding, 6 weeks! Nah lennon ur a joke manager and away wi the birdies.
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October 3rd, 2011 at 3:01 pm
We are bleating about experience and all of the above are experienced players at a higher level than the SPL. Actually I was watching the Fizzy Pop League on Saturday Night and noticed the shaggy dog that is Bullard pulling the strings for Ipswich. He would have been a sensation up here if he didn’t get in tow with Ian Black and Garry O’Connor.
So, did Lennon realise what this team needs? The proof is those names. Though we dodge a fat as fuck bullet with Sol. So I’ll give you that.
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October 3rd, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Well Bullard is like Maloney, constantly breaking down injured. He’s hardly played the last few years and his attitude is suspect. David James is finished, sol Campbell the same. Remember Bullard when he visited Lennoxtown, was in papers next day that there was a misunderstanding and he thought Hull would pay his FULL wage on loan to us AND thought we’d pay another 50% £20k on top of hulls cash. Total £60k! He’s not that dumb, obviously didnt fancy spl after all and used that excuse knowing Hull wouldn’t entertain. That. Permanently injured and sleekit, not what we need.
lordofthewing Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Correct. I understand your concerns I had the same myself but I also understood why we were looking there. The fact that the SPL can no longer attract pension topper uppers is a worrying development.
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:39 am
Sack DD’s monkey in a suit and bring in a football man. We’d get someone fairly good for £800K with a £200K bonus. ( A bonus you seem to get offered even if you make an arse of everything).
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 8:44 am
As the CU article poined out (maybe a should post a link) we can get someone better for less.
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October 3rd, 2011 at 8:48 am
Link to the CU article.
http://celticunderground.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=773:the-celtic-revival-plan&catid=47:season-2011-2012&Itemid=83
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paranoidandroid Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:58 am
Thanks for that. I’ll give it a read.
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paranoidandroid Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 10:28 am
That’s another great article. Someone actually looking at the big picture and looking for solutions(beyond blaming big Sammy).
The lack of transparency at Celtic is disgraceful. We fans just haven’t got a clue what’s going on most, if not all, of the time. What’s the longterm plan? Does even DD know?
The whole management structure is wrong too. There’s far too much top down management(as they say in business school)- a few people who know nothing about football, telling everyone else what to do- with know real thought about what happens on the pitch.
We desparately need a football man with some business skill and some power within the club. Celtic isn’t a business with a football department; it’s a football club. We are nothing without a good team.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 11:49 am
Yes, the big bigger, one that forgets about scapegoats and goes for the real targets. It’s an article that’s not blinkered.
October 3rd, 2011 at 9:21 am
FFS, I cant even blame Samaras fot this one…
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 11:53 am
We have missed that comedy panto horse….
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October 3rd, 2011 at 10:15 am
I think that a mean back four would be a good start. Even if the team aren`t scoring we would have that security.
The injuries are disrupting the team, Ibrox and Tynecastle were not great places to go after a Thursday night Euro match. Get the players super fit.
The international interruption may be happening at the right time.
Come on the Celts!
A fit settled team is just a dream at the moment.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 11:48 am
A considered comment from an old timer. Welcome back.
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October 3rd, 2011 at 10:57 am
We can bemoan the loss of key players (and this has had an effect) but the biggest problem, as Lennon has pointed out, is the lack of belief and fight. This has happened when we have been at full strength. Something has gone badly wrong since the end of last season. Lennon looks demoralised. Is this because he has not been allowed to sign the players he wanted to? Does he himself feel that he is short-changing the fans by not telling them the truth? Yesterday he looked well out of his depth and sounded beaten in the post-match interview.
There is no way he would have wanted to start the season with Big Dan and Loovens still in the squad. But his perseverance with Samaras, especially after the Ross County game in 2010 when he suggested that Sammi and others would never play for Celtic again, has been baffling.
Problem is I don’t think he will fix it. But decisions need to be made immediately on future strategy. I would be very surprised if the board have not arranged a meeting for this week concerning the current situation. Get prepared for the ‘fully behind the manager’ kiss of death speech from Lawwell around Wednesday.
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October 3rd, 2011 at 11:51 am
Not disagreeing hence my Lennon has to become embattled take on things. I do think injuries have played a massive part in the teams slump but there is something else.
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October 3rd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Remember we wanted Boaby Martinez? From todays Guarunaid. It omits that he pays Calderbuer over £30,000 notes a week.
Martínez is not feeling the heat
While Steve Bruce professes to be “shocked” at the level of criticism being levelled at him and his Sunderland side and Steve Kean does his best to ignore the “Kean out” banners, nobody seems to be questioning the managerial merits of Roberto Martínez. “We were a bit naive and careless,” said the Wigan manager after the Aston Villa game, a sentiment that not only summarises their performance but their time under the Spaniard. The Latics have five points from their first seven games, leaving them mired in the relegation zone, and nothing this season suggests things are going to get better for Wigan.
Martínez has presided over the worst defeat in the club’s history – 9-1 to Tottenham Hotspur in November 2009 – and recorded back-to-back wins for the first time during his time in charge only in the last two games of the 2010-11 season. While their away form was decent last season, only two sides had worse home records – Blackpool and West Ham – and we all know what happened to them.
The common retort in defence of the Wigan manager is that his side play attractive football and that may be sporadically so but that may not be enough this season. Average attendances (between 2009-10 and 2010-11) under Martínez have fallen. Admittedly Wigan is predominantly a rugby league town but, if the football was that good, the attendances would, at the very least, hover around the same level. It seems fans are voting with their feet, and with another defeat under their belt, perhaps Dave Whelan will listen to their shuffle.
Better the devil you know?
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October 3rd, 2011 at 7:10 pm
lotw =lenny lover ffs lenny cant even admit his mistakes so what chance of him learning from them and as for Sammi if he as good as Lenny thinks he is why nt play him every game .Ooops sorry he keeps him as tackticle master stroke lol
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brido67 Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 7:16 pm
plus we are not Wigan playing for survival every season.Well i hope not although at this rate top 6 could be a result.
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lordofthewing Reply:
October 3rd, 2011 at 11:21 pm
If wanting the best for my club makes me a Lenny lover then so be it. FFS, wanting your club to do well is now a crime. Call Alex Salmond for a summit.
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October 14th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Meant to reply to bhoylondon67 weeks ago but forgot.
Any way, he is talking pure Lillian Gish. No one is trying to hide the problems Rangers have with the taxman. To accuse virtually everybody not connected with Celtic of this is just a backdoor entry to the tired old conspiracy theory.
The media reports on the matter have ranged from speculation to hysteria with very little in the way of established fact. Rangers and the taxman are in dispute. The taxman, with all the power of the government behind him, has ring fenced a portion of Rangers money, in case mind you, they win the legal battle. This is by no means certain.
For those Celtic fans who hope the taxman wins, be careful. He wont stop with Rangers.
Think of the pressure the Rangers management team must be under, yet they continue, along with the players, to deliver.
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October 15th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
C’mon, somebody say something.
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