16 thoughts on “The Trouble With John Barnes

  1. I saw some stats recently. It said 55% of first time managers never get another managerial job. Seems to me that JB already defied the odds getting a second crack at Tranmere after a woeful spell at Celtic. You don’t get three strikes in football – that’s a different sport. Quite agree – race has nothing to do with him not being able to get a managerial job. A track history of failure has everything to do with it.

  2. I totally agree James, to use any victim card to deflect from your own shortcomings, is, an admission of your acknowledgement of your inadequacies. Great player yes, poor poor manager. I had the same doubts about Ronny roar as I had with John Barnes, given the same results John Barnes would have probably gone on to a successful Celtic career, it most certainly was not a race issue at Celtic Park.

  3. his tactics at tranmere were woeful, he had trouble with understanding that the players here were not of the same ability as he was when he played, it didnt help that he had jason mceteer who also had no managerial experience as his no.2
    he got sacked because he did not pay winning football, the same way rob edwards was this season and he is milk white.
    like most fans we are sad when a manager leaves because it means that things are not going well at our club and change is needed.

  4. Tranmere fan here and I have to agree. I think most of us were sad he had to go, but HE HAD to go. The football was awful, the players looked lost on the pitch and the lack of positive results followed. I don’t recall one moment when race creed or colour came into play and, as you rightly said in your piece, the majority of human beings who follow football in this country don’t give a rip about that, they just want good football and pray for results. Our manager at the start of this season was white and ginger, was he sacked for being this? No he was sacked because of our poor performances end of story. I’m not saying racism doesn’t happen, look at Russia etc for confirmation of that but you can’t blame everything that happens on the colour of your skin or your country of origin.

  5. James most of the coloured players who became managers I have seen, just did not have what it took to be successful,especially in the Premier league.
    There have been discussions a number of times, and the racist card has been used to promote the fact that no coloured managers were at top football clubs.I am not a expert on football management but it may be that there are none of them with the qualities required.I am sure if any coloured manager was good enough they would be at one of the top teams.
    So its time this card was put to bed.

  6. black,white ,brown , green , yellow, pink,blue or red. who cares what colour you are
    if u are hopeless your hopeless and john was worse than hopeless.
    once he lost henrik he was
    snookered

  7. totally agree. i’m a tranmere supporter and when john barnes became our manager i was pleased we had a big name and thought he could attract some decent players. nobody cared what colour he was, but he was the worst manager i have come across. not a clue.

  8. One need only look as far as Henrik Larsson to see that he could not be any more loved if he were any other colour. When I look at Henrik Larsson I do not see an extremely talented footballer who is black, I just see an extremely talented footballer – his colour means not a jot to me.

    I remember when John Barnes came out years ago with his accusation that he would’ve lasted longer at Celtic if he were white and it was Paul Elliot, of all people, who shot it down. He just saw it for the rubbish it was.

  9. The Trouble with John Barnes…

    Well, they say trouble comes in threes. And for me, not only looking back but also at the time, Barnes particular treble came in the shape of three fantastically talented players who presented an insurmountable task for very different reasons:

    1. Eyal Berkovic
    2. Mark Viduka
    3. Henrik Larsson

    The first had no heart, the second was a petulant child with a lot of growing up to do and the third broke his leg.

    That Barnes had no answer for this particular scenario is solely down to his own shortcomings, presenting at the time as being largely a lack of experience, but latterly most likely also exacerbated by an inability to address his own failings.

    A man that has the lack of self-awareness to still blame others for his downfall 15 years later, would have been found utterly wanting in the dressing room where, within a week of losing Larsson, would start dropping points, would be unable to get the best from the astonishingly talented Berkovic and simply could not fathom what to do with the moody Viduka.

    That Dalglish seemingly left him to it also begs some serious questions to be asked of his own personality.

    In short, Barnes had a supremely talented squad that should have had the ability to horse any team in Scotland, but instead often looked bereft of ideas and lacked cohesion for lengthy periods during matches. This was down to him and nobody else.

  10. Had I been in his position I would have held my hands up and said, “It was too soon to jump into managing straight away.” Then I would’ve contacted fools in the game and tried to get a coaching job under a proven manager and done some leadership courses. Then I would have tried to get a job managing reserves, and made the step up.

  11. I don’t think that race had anything to do with John losing his job at Celtic. However I think he is entitled to feel aggrieved about his sacking. His win record for Celtic is 65.5% which compares pretty well with other Celtic managers. Ronny Deila is on 66% and he is reckoned to be doing well. Lennon and O’Neil were a bit higher but Mowbray was much lower.

  12. Well said from a Tranmere fan.

    He has al as o insulted us. He also said he got sacked because he was black. Said a white man would have got longer. – it had nothing to do with shipping 40 goals in 14 games and going ftom a decent team to bottom. Honest. …

  13. After he was sacked at Tranmere, the physio took over, and did a better job with virtually the same squad.

    That, along with failing at Celtic, means your CV will be straight in the bin, without interview, whatever your skin colour.

    I would, however, celebrate if he was given a chance at York, Hartlepool or Cheltenham, as we are in a relegation dogfight with these to stay in the league!

    Your just not good enough Mr. Barnes, accept it, and stop embarrassing yourself. The kick it out campaign has also lost credibility in backing him with this!

  14. Race has never been a issue @ Celtic as it stands Jason Denayer will win ???? young player of the year if he is good enough colour does not come into it lets kick out racism now

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