I don’t often post pieces based on a single social media comment, unless it is particularly insightful or comes from someone with a particular profile.
Because what’s the point? You could spend all your days giving publicity to lunatics.
But I’ll be honest, some of those lunatics are only speaking out loud what others have in their heads … and I think this is one of those times.
The post in question really caught my eye; my friend over at Born Celtic runs his own YouTube channel, and the following comment appeared underneath one of his latest videos; brace yourselves for this because it is a beauty … and I’m tidying up the grammar here because this person, who I’m also not going to highlight, will be shamed enough.
“WON? Stole you mean. Celtic started winning titles when the SNP got into power. Look at the goals we’ve had chopped off. Not by mistake. And if you can’t see that you’re blinded by the green lights.”
Don’t you love that? He does, he’s been killing himself laughing since he read it.
Celtic started winning titles when the SNP got into power.
And that’s the reason I am highlighting the mad-skull opinion of a single person; because this is not an isolated viewpoint. Many of them express similar sentiments without just coming right out and saying it. Others dance around the issue but mention the SNP in so many of their posts that it’s pretty obvious that their suspicions lean in that direction.
I don’t know how many times I’ve heard, or seen, the view expressed that we owe our success to some non-football mechanism, and it’s usually centred around our “infiltration” of certain parts of the social strata and the political and professional classes.
This is exactly how they express it too; “infiltration”, as if we have no right to be trying to better ourselves and our circumstances. It goes without saying that the “we” in this case is not even a reference to Celtic fans but to Roman Catholics, and Irish Catholics in particular. Some of them do keep “enemies lists” of certain types of people from that background, people who, they are now convinced, operate as some sort of “enemy within.”
What leads many of them to this conclusion is, in fact, grounded in a real-life event; the Scottish Parliament election of 2011, where the SNP won a majority in a proportional representation system which was deliberately designed to make sure that never happened. They are convinced that this election was some kind of “first step” on the road to crushing their club.
Those of a more sensationalist bent even have a wider theory; that Rangers, the club of the Union and a focal point for people’s political and social views, was an “obstacle” in the way of the SNP’s ambitions for independence and that as a result they had to be “removed” from the gameboard.
Rangers was nothing more than a West of Scotland football club, no matter its delusions of grandeur. It posed no threat whatsoever to the SNP’s chances.
Christ, Rangers had won two of the last three titles when the SNP was elected and would go on to win the next one; the “strength” of their club had not prevented the party of independence from winning that historic election victory in the first place.
But this is why so many of them fall victim to what’s known as a “causal fallacy”; that because the liquidation of Rangers happened the year after the SNP came to power that there has to be some linkage between them, and I can also sort of see how if you start with their mindset that you could get there. Scotland was supposed to be unionist. When that rug was pulled out from under their feet it shook their belief system to its core. Then they lost their club, a bastion of unionism, under a pro-indy government. It isn’t difficult to see how they made this leap.
But it’s still ridiculous, but it persists … it is impossible to knock on the head. It pops up all the time, and forms a part of the all-encompassing Grand Conspiracy Of The Unseen Fenian Hand where the SNP has a starring role.
You do have to love it though. Celtic only started winning trophies after the SNP was elected. You would never think our first nine in a row or our European Cup had happened to listen to this rot. I mean, the Westminster Tory government was elected in 2010, and has been in office ever since, so why don’t they get blamed for this?
Don’t expect a single thing these people believe to make sense. I said I’d highlight the comment. Trying to figure out the mind behind it and how it arrives at these preposterous conclusions … well, that’s beyond my comprehension.
It is fun to cover this sort of thing though. Not to mention a little bit unnerving. There are too many of these nutcases out there for my liking.
Lord Provost Jacqueline McLaren (SNP)
“Over the last 150 years, Rangers has been one of the sport’s most storied names – and I’m very happy to welcome current players and staff to the City Chambers to mark not only this anniversary but the club’s place in the city’s own history.”
“The cost of such events is typically met by the profits from Glasgow’s Common Good fund investments.”
Lord Provost Jacquline McLaren…
Lord Provost Jacquline McLiar she most certainly is coming away with that load of bullshit !
Thank you my friend!
Absolute pleasure as ever my man:)
Sadly a lot , a bloody lot of their fan base are simply not right in the head when it comes to football n Celtic in particular. For us mostly it’s unfathomable but somehow its their hatred ( inbuilt) of catholisim and Irish Catholics in particular. Genuinely, question them and the it’s unfathomable, it’s simply because it’s aye been, no real cause or reason. Religion used by peeple who actually have none, and that’s accurate who amongst the hords to go to church or believe??? Just a mechanism for hatred. Why?
I’ve never met a hun who wasn’t a conspiracy theorist.
They are batshit loopy like Trumpers and about as intellectually challenged.
It makes me smile just to think about it.
Celtic won the league. Trump got found guilty on all counts. I’m just a very happy person. Leave they weirdos to live in a disturbing world ??
There’s trouble brewing with that mob, the hate marching
Season starting soon.
Mobs filled with hatred and
Booze.
Some of our law Lords think this way this city is so hateful but in the last two decades it’s changing g slow but sure but thees people are dying but they leave a terrible legacy it’s not what you know it’s who you know our industries are ruined by people that are not best qualified and those that are have to leave this city or country to get on ladies boy got the job it’s like royalty handed down
What was it that Alex Salmond SNP said about them? That they were the fabric of Scottish society?. No wonder Scottish society is so weak.
As for their hatred of Ireland and Catholicism. Well, they will be over the moon in around
five years time when, for the first time since St Patrick, Ireland will no longer be considered a catholic country with well over 50% of the population claiming to have no religious affiliation.
I find football such a boring sport now in comparison to the passion of GAA football and the end to end of international Rugby Union but what keeps me emotionally attached to football is Glasgow Celtic…no other club in this globe comes a proverbial near!
The first is the 1967 unbelievable story that really phoenixed the club from its beneficence roots which sustains my passion for the institution; and the second is the 2012 malevolent reincarnation of a liquidated entity that has birthed similarities with what we are witnessing in the US. James (Seamus) , Phil et al bloggers I salute you for your endeavours to reach out to spread the truth as the 5th estate. The earlier version is no longer fit for purpose in Scotland.
[As an ex-SNP member…]
Well done the SNP!
For the last 10+ years the party has had the ‘SADIM’ touch:
everything it touches turns to sh!t. 🙁
At last, the party has delivered success.
Maybe the ‘delightful’ Sturgeons could be invited to unfurl the flag
at the start of next season?! 🙂
You can always count on them.for a laugh but on a more serious note these neanderthals have a vote and will keep us tied to this unholy union. I live in hope they will eventually join the rest of the civilized society but that is akin to working out what colour the number 7 smells like!
There is a group of Celtic and Rangers supporters who join together at independence marches so not all of them are nut jobs.
There is a significant amount of them around these shores that openly admit to wanting independence…
Granted they are probably mostly under 50 years of age but it’s still nice to see things going in the right direction…
My niece (aged 22) is all for Scottish (and Irish) Independence and she’s a smart wee cookie just about to finish university and knows her politics for sure –
And thankfully she says between 80-90 of her age group wants Independence…
So it’s all good the way it’s going –
One problem is that I know two Celtic supporters who vote Labour…
Unfortunately voting Labour is much the same as voting Tory, Lib-Dem, UKIP, Reform. BNP etc in that these political parties are all…
BUTCHERS. APRON. LOVING. BASTARDS !
People reveal themselves. That (worryingly pervasive) attitude is merely a sign that these people held power they’d use it against Irish Catholics. Scotland may have changed in 30 years, but clearly old habits die hard with that lot.
THEY ARE ALL THE SAME PPEEPPLL,BRAINLESS DELUDED KNUCKLEDRAGGERS,HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA, PAY THE FACE PAINTER
If it’s the Scottish Government who’ve derailed the broken brothers’ entitlement, then how come their walking dead were allowed to march down Renfield Street yesterday, surely as big a breach of the hate crime bill imaginable.
A think they must share the one brain neuron no other excuses
They really are the thickest of supports, they should thank the SNP fkr giving them an interest free loan and also Alex Salmond tried to make a splecial case for the old Rangers in their battle with the tax man not forgetting not pushing for titles to be stripped for cheating.
Probably Trump supporters