Adam Idah was in the news last night, and we all know by now I think what the story was. He missed the flight when Norwich flew out to Austria, because of an unknown issue, and when the manager got on the phone and told him he had to come out he did in fact go and at that point he was told he would be dropped from their friendly over there.
The manager was obviously angry and after the game said whatever was bothering him, the situation involving Celtic was certainly a major factor in it.
I’ve read a lot of comments suggesting that this is Idah’s fault. Players shouldn’t be spitting the dummy when they don’t get their way, and it makes me nervous, but I’m not ready to heap all the blame onto his shoulders, not when we have situations close to home where we’re walking on eggshells every day wondering if O’Riley’s head will be turned.
I’ve read comments suggesting that Norwich should not be standing in the way of his dream move. But that’s self evidently rubbish, and if someone in the media was writing that about our stance over Matt O’Riley I would be furiously telling them to mind their own business.
No, clubs know what our valuation of O’Riley is. Do we even know what valuation Norwich put on Idah? I’ll tell you this; we know it’s not as low as £4.5 million.
When a club gets serious about Matt they will make a serious offer and then sit down with us and negotiate in good faith. At that point a deal will either get done or it will not. Two teams have made bids, both are insulting. We all know this is the case, just as we all know there’s a deal to be done with Norwich … but only when we get real.
I’ve said right from the start that they had to be careful not to set a ridiculous fee we wouldn’t meet here and risk an unhappy player, but the offer we’ve made doesn’t come close to being serious, we’re at least £1.5 million short of that, and so what we’re actually doing is insulting the club that holds his registration and making them even more reluctant to talk.
Nothing about this makes us look good.
We’ve made a derisory offer and then walked away from the table. Last night we found out that Idah is still in the “Celtic WhatsApp group”; I see no reason why that would be the case and find it pretty ridiculous and I’d be extremely pissed off if this was one of our players, because it adds to the impression that people are playing games.
Whenever something like this happens with a player we’re trying to sign I always try to put myself in the shoes of the people at his club, and think about it as they must see it, and I would not blame them one bit if they were extremely pissed off by all this. It’s our club that is hanging this kid out to dry along with our manager who wants him signed.
We’ve behaved abysmally towards him and in the shabbiest possible manner towards his club. We had a responsibility to him, to the manager, to our own club and theirs to either make a proper, serious bid and to sit down with them and talk this through to see if a deal could be done, or to walk away from the table if one wasn’t possible.
For God’s sake, it’s been evident for over a month that we’re dragging our feet here when we could be moving on to other targets and we ought to have either came back with a real offer or made it known that we were looking elsewhere. That would have brought the closure to this which everyone involved needs in order to prepare for the season ahead.
Instead of doing this right, and trying to get it done quick, it seems we’ve tried to chart some shady middle ground, where we’re working on the player in the background and refusing to make a better offer to the people who control his future.
Nobody is to blame for this but us.
The way we’ve conducted ourselves in this whole window looks like we’re a club going through the motions and pretending that generating a few headlines counts as progress. If I were the Norwich chairman I’d be telling Celtic, and the player, in no uncertain terms, that whatever his future might be that no bid from our club will even be entertained at this point.
And you know something? If they do that, I don’t think we have a Plan B.
Today we might announce the signing of Bernardo.
Believe me, at this point I have no intention of greeting the announcement with fireworks and party streamers, not over a deal where we had a right-to-buy clause which we then re-negotiated downward and still messed about for more weeks when the manager wanted to get him in with others and get them up to speed.
The way we do business must be off-putting for clubs as well.
This might well be the last player Benfica loans us with a right-to-buy option, because they won’t trust us to honour it. And why would any club loan us a player anyway knowing that if the guy does well that we’ll play these sorts of games to unsettle him and then put in some low-ball bid? We do ourselves no favours at all.
But in this case, we’ve done Adam Idah no favours. We’ve encouraged him to believe we’d do everything we could to get him here and then submitted one derisory bid followed by a long radio silence and now he’s at loggerheads with his own manager and his own club and he’s pissed off their fans and made a rod for his back.
What a terrible way to behave. It’s like what the Ibrox club is attempting to do right now with Lawrence Shankland at Hearts, and what at least one club is attempting to do to us with Matt O’Riley and I can’t defend it and I won’t defend it.
For weeks now, this site and others have been almost begging the club to settle this issue, for our good, for his good, for the club’s good; either get it done or move along. Now our foot-dragging and our utter lack of respect for everyone involved has had a real-world consequence for the player, and we now cannot and must not let this drag on any longer.
Penny pinching Peter is to blame, he has gone way beyond his best before date, when something starts to stink what do you do with it, he’s overdue being binned.
Couldn’t agree more!! We’re behaving like an amateur outfit. Quibbling over £1m-£2m when we have well over £100 guaranteed in the bank with CL money. FFS Celtic, get some business done!!
It reminds me of the John McGinn debacle. A player that would have been outstanding for us. He wanted to come to us. All for another half a million quid.
You’ve hit the nail on the head again James, I can’t believe how many of our fans are still defending the board and assuring us that they are working hard. The season starts on Sunday, ok the window will still be open for a bit but we’re not properly prepared for the first game of the season, weaker than last season and that is inexcusable.
Bernardo and Idah should’ve been straight forward but Idah has a contract at Norwich and they don’t have to sell if they don’t want to.
After the usa if i didnt know any better i would suggest the board is cleaninghouse building lennox town tarting up the rest of the place, hording as much money as possible whilst getting in players to get as far as possible in the CL in order to abandon the SPFL for the riches of the EPL and leaving scottish corrupted football to the huns and the rest. The tv rights alone make it worthwhile and by adding 2 more teams to the epl makes it doable. We have capacity to go to 85k on extensions. Can you imagine every second week hosting both mans, liverpool , spurs, chelsea, leichester ect ect ?
I’m sorry but I don’t see it’s our fault what’s happening with the boys valuation as it’s nonsense end off story . We have every right to walk away from negotiations on this one if Norwich want to rip the piss
I could’ve swore you said yourself that you didn’t think idah was worth more than the 4.5 Celtic had offered, and if Norwich wanted 6, you believed we should’ve moved on. Who’s to say that this hasn’t happened? Celtic reportedly made the 4.5 offer, it was rejected, and that then appears to be the end of it. You’ve no idea if they are looking at other players now. Celtic didn’t tell him to miss his flight. The story goes that he flew home to get his phone and was late returning. And the story also is that Norwich want 11M+ for him. The fact it’s came out that he’s still in the team WhatsApp group is a complete non story for a player who was on loan with us, and his club clearly don’t want him.
As for Bernardo, I’m sure the loan to buy valuation was if he came in and made an impact. I personally like Bernardo, and idah, so would like to see them both sign, but if Bernardo still has room to develop I’m to a starter for Celtic, is it really that wrong for the club to go back and discuss a different deal?
Well your recollection is seriously wrong.
I said there is a number above which it becomes subject to the law of diminishing returns.
Do try to keep up FFS.
I said at £7-8 million there are better options.
There’s nothing complicated about what I’ve said. Ask them what they want. If it’s too much move on.
This is not rocket science.
Spot on, why do we have to go through this with every player we want, even the Bernando shambles, we agreed a loan to buy, however we went back on that and demanded a lower fee, now every Celtic supporter knows who is behind this ridiculous biscuit tin mentality, he is a non executive director and should have no say whatsoever in any transfer dealings, I for one am sick to death with his meddling, it makes us look look like armatures.
It just seems to be another John MaGinn lost cause and look at how good a player he turned out to be!!!!!
Celtic boards should be sacked!!!!!!!
If the money is in the bank bloody spend it
That’s the worst load of rubbish you have ever written James.we all know who was to blame it was mark lawwell not getting the same loan to buy deal as Verona had which was 3.5 million euros. when idah started too score goals and make assists norwich wanted more money celtics offer of £4.2 million pounds was over a million than they were going to get from Verona they knocked back celtics bid and said they wanted £7.5 million because it a British club they think they can rip us off .as for the fletcher and mcginn debacles we know who fault that was Peter lawwell like father like son Peter lawwell was out of celtic for 2years most things ran smooth till his boy came in then he came back
Where do we disagree here? Lol.
That’s pretty much what the article says lol.