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The hacks can cry about a “tedious” treble as they like. Celtic fans aren’t complaining.

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The Scottish Daily Mail is starting to pop up on these pages more than I ever thought it would, and that’s saying something—because I despise that publication almost as much as I despise certain other newspapers in this country.

Just the other day I highlighted Callum Crowe’s piece on the Ibrox fake-over and his revelation that things are not going well because they’re nowhere near reaching 51%. That story has been confirmed over the last few days, by Andy Devlin at The Sun, so Crowe obviously has a few decent contacts.

But his article today? Oh wow. Absolute rubbish from start to finish. The premise is that this has been the most “tedious” treble campaign ever. And the justifications he offers? Dreadful. The fact that we’ve only beaten the Ibrox club once in the league so far, and that it took penalties to beat them in the League Cup.

I mean, you’d think the whole season boiled down to those games. It doesn’t. A championship is won week by week, game by game.

There are only four games against them in a campaign. There is not a single Celtic fan who would trade a league title just to beat them four times. That’s not what matters to us. Our season isn’t defined by the derby games.

I don’t know what his allegiances are, and I don’t care—but he sounds bitter, to say the least. When he writes that the semi-final at the weekend was “horribly one-sided,” what was horrible about it? If your team wins, there’s nothing horrible about watching them do so in a semi-final.

He’s basically telling Rodgers that if he becomes the first Celtic manager to win three trebles, there’s no glory in that. Which is ridiculous.

We’ve been the biggest side in this country for decades now. We went through that spell during the 60s and 70s when we were virtually untouchable—and in all that time, no Celtic manager won three trebles. What Rodgers has done is exceptional. And he’s fully entitled to believe that there’s a place in the history books waiting for him.

The article says this Celtic team isn’t even the best Brendan Rodgers side. Well, that rather depends on your perspective, doesn’t it? He talks about how it hasn’t won as many points as some of Rodgers’ earlier teams. But this one will finish the season with more points than the last Rodgers team to win two titles in a row.

He says it’s an “inferior” side. He seems to be suggesting the players aren’t as good as in Rodgers’ first stint—and that may or may not be true. But I’ve enjoyed watching this team across all the fronts it has competed on, especially in Europe, which is a fine yardstick for judging where this Rodgers team stands against other treble-winning sides of the last decade.

But where they stand in Celtic’s history? Well, they will stand proudly in it as the team that secured a record number of trebles. Each player has his own chance to write that page in the book. What do we care where it stands alongside the greatest sides in the history of our club? What does that even mean anymore?

Does Crowe think anyone really looks at it like that? Does he think any of us are sitting around wondering how this team will stack up against the greatest Celtic sides in history? I don’t think that even in the moment.

We know who the greatest sides were. And for every time someone says, “look what this modern team has achieved,” there’ll be someone making excuses for why it’s not up there with the all-time greats.

Someone said to me the other day that the greatest modern Celtic team was the Seville side. I had to remind them that the Seville team didn’t actually win anything that year. I agree we should have won the title—but we didn’t. The Seville team came up short in every competition. Sure, a team that included the likes of Larsson, Morav?ík, Petrov, Lambert and the rest—they were a joy to watch.

But then you remember that Alex McLeish won a treble on their watch. It was the last one that a side from Ibrox secured.

Even talking about it just underlines how much I’ve enjoyed watching every moment of this season when we’ve been in full flow. Watching Celtic win things is never going to get old. I am never going to be bored by it. I’m going to enjoy it forever. There will never be a time when I’m not caught up in the drama of a treble campaign.

It’s not even unusual to read a reporter talking about how Celtic’s dominance is somehow unhealthy for Scottish football.

But I’m not convinced that Scottish football would be any “healthier” if it were us and a club from Ibrox trading titles like we used to. That doesn’t sound especially good for the game either. Yet that’s exactly what some people seem to want us to go back to.

There have been spells during this season when we haven’t played particularly well. The football hasn’t always flowed. We’ve looked a bit off it at times. But that happens every season. Are we going to call every title win “tedious”? Are we going to say that every campaign is boring?

It’s not our job to worry about the rest of this league. It’s their job to get better. To provide us with more of a challenge. To the ones complaining about us winning endlessly—here’s the advice: sort yourselves out. Put up more of a fight.

Most of Scottish football happens away from the Glasgow soap opera. That’s hard for a lot of media folk to grasp—and sometimes we forget it too—but it’s still true.

Most football fans across the world follow teams that don’t regularly win trophies. So when fans of other Scottish clubs say they hate this environment, it may well be true. But ask the supporters of Spurs how they feel. Or the fans of Brighton. Or Southend United. Or whoever. Most fans go years—decades, even—without seeing silverware.

And more and more, when I read this sort of stuff, I’m acutely aware that the only people who really, consistently, talk like this—the only people genuinely sick of the “state” of Scottish football and the one-team nature of it—are the fans of the other team that expects to win everything… and never does anymore.

The only ones consistently talking about how it’s a “shame” that we don’t have a more competitive league are the fans of the team that most expects to compete.

During the Ibrox nine-in-a-row in the 1990s, I watched my team go five seasons without a trophy. When we won the 1988–89 Scottish Cup Final against Rangers at Hampden, I’d have been stunned to learn we wouldn’t win another until 1994–95. Nine years without a league title. And there were times during that spell when we finished as low as fourth.

That was the 1993–94 season: back when we played 44 games with two points for a win. We finished on 50 points and didn’t even qualify for Europe. We had three managers that year. Our top goal scorer was Pat McGinlay—a midfielder—with 12 goals, 10 in the league. We scored just 51 league goals. Four clubs outscored us.

So yeah, some of us have seen it all. We’ve been through the dark times. Through the bad spells. And all the while, the club at Ibrox—the one called Rangers—lorded it over us. Courtesy of David Murray and all those bank millions.

I will never tire of watching us win things.

I’m sure there were periods back then when I didn’t enjoy watching Scottish football. I’m sure there were times it felt tedious watching them win everything. But here’s what amuses me: even in their big-spending days, even when we were sitting fourth, even during all of that, they never had a spell as dominant or as trophy-laden as this one. Not once. At any point.

And I think that’s what drives them mad. Not just what we’ve done—but that we’ve done things they never could. That we’ve reached a level of sustained success that even Murray, at his peak, couldn’t match.

I dare say they do find this tedious. I dare say it does drive them to distraction.

But they shouldn’t mistake their own bitterness and frustration for anything else in Scottish football. Because most of Scottish football doesn’t care which Glasgow club puts its coloured ribbons on the trophies.

No Celtic fan I know is complaining about the “lack of a challenge.” We have neutralised the challenge. We have blown away the challengers. That is not ever going to become tedious or boring or less enjoyable to me.

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James Forrest has been the editor of The CelticBlog for 13 years. Prior to that, he was the editor of several digital magazines on subjects as diverse as Scottish music, true crime, politics and football. He ran the Scottish football site On Fields of Green and, during the independence referendum, the Scottish politics site Comment Isn't Free. He's the author of one novel, one book of short stories and one novella. He lives in Glasgow.

12 comments

  • JimmyR says:

    “There have been spells during this season when we haven’t played particularly well. The football hasn’t always flowed. ”

    That’s why the league is so difficult to win. You have to get a win regardless of how your feeling, regardless of the niggling injury, regardless of the state of the pitch, regardless of the weather, regardless of the officials and regardless of the opposition. It’s a long haul. At times it can be stultifyingly turgid but champions keep on producing the goods to get the result. That’s why I hate the concept of play-offs, which reduce what should be a marathon to rapid fire shootout.

    The team who make the best of the entire league programme deserve always to be champions. Just as the worst deserve to be relegated. I hope to goodness they do not bring in a play-off to decide the Scottish Champions. Even the Lisbon Lions had their off days. Thankfully fewer than the opposition. Getting over the line is never boring.

    What is boring is the constant refrain “The Rainjurs are coming!” Followed by a season where, yet again, they fail to compete.

  • BhilltheTim says:

    I live in England and have been asked a few times if it doesn’t get boring watching Celtic win all the time. My reply is that it might potentially lose some of the thrill in time but as long as the usual suspects across the city are banging on about ‘We are the people!’ ‘Up to their knees…’ and all the rest then I will take the utmost pleasure in getting it right up them!

  • Loginagain says:

    Clachnacuddin:
    I went to the shop today (a rare outing for me). And whilst walking past the Scummies of the scottish meadia rack, I happened to see the headline on the front page of the Daily Record. I thought to myself surely the Sevco fans haven’t changed their minds.

    They refer to themselves as “we are the people” And what was the headline I read?

    ‘A POPE OF THE PEOPLE’ ? I think the Daily Record sales must have dropped to a new low today. ?

    • SFATHENADIROFCHIFTINESS says:

      Nice one Clach…..?

    • Clachnacuddin and the Hoops says:

      It’s probably strange for them to risk that Loginagain given the mentality incapacitated levels of their readership and no doubt it will not be going down well in Sevco Facebook Land for sure…

      I am a lurker on Wallow Wallow and someone started a thread about the passing of His holiness and the moderator shut it down after FOUR posts and stated why – That he was embarrassed about what was gonna be posted…

      He won’t be able to avoid the songs of hate towards His holiness on show at the home of St.Mirren FC from the visiting Sevco support from 3pm till 4.50pm…

      I was gonna say 3pm till 5pm but hopefully the league is over by then and no injury time will therefore be required for Sevco to win / equalise !

  • Johnny Green says:

    It can get boring and there is nothing worse than falling asleep and missing out on the Champagne, Jelly and Ice cream.

  • Clachnacuddin and the Hoops says:

    I have seen Celtic go FIVE season’s without a trophy – And SIX full years as well…

    1989/90 – 90/91 – 91/92 – 92/93 – 93/94 –

    And from May 1989 – May 1995…

    So I for one ain’t gonna fuckin tire of trebles galore…

    Not now, not ever while alive in this world – And not until I’m a puff of smoke at the creamatorium !

  • eldraco says:

    Ah well gonna be a tedious 10 or 15 yrs ! Better get yer heid wrapped aroon it

  • wotakuhn says:

    Haha brilliant what a bunch of losers. Like their club of choice. Just who do they think they’re kidding. All they really want is to win sometimes or to be in our position and literally win all the time.
    Hun scum

  • terry the tim says:

    I remember the great Tommy Burns could not win the league due to Rangers financial doping.
    He would be delighted about Celtics dominance.
    Every time you hear the “up to your knees thing” just enjoy the fact that every trophy we win they are hurting.
    Tedious my arse.

  • micmac says:

    Ther pain is glorious to see, I watched Celtic, starting as a six year old in 1950. Danny Kaye, the Hollywood star of the day kicked the game off. It was the Charity Cup final, we beat the Ibrox mob 3-2 which was a rarity in those days.After that I was hooked.
    Any Celtic supporter who gets bored with the team winning trophies needs a good kick in the Bxllocks, The most hateful, arrogant and entitled supporters in the country are hurting big time, long may it continue, the offspring of the generations of Celtic supporters who were faithful through and through are enjoying trophies ,trebles and triumphs year after year. Don’t ever forget the cheating years by the club across the river and the arrogance and sectarian hatred through the years.
    I for one will celebrate another Title this Saturday and raise a glass to my Celtic supporting pals who I shared great times with, and have mostly all passed on.

  • micmac says:

    I can spell their, a wee hiccup there.

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