So yesterday’s title party – which they asked us not to have, which we had anyway – generated a large number of headlines.
This is not surprising. We always knew we were going to get the shit end of the stick, because we’re not allowed to celebrate this. After all, it’s not supposed to be our city, not supposed to be our country, not supposed to be our culture. So why would we be allowed to celebrate as if it was?
And the thing is, I’m only half exaggerating here, because this is sometimes how I feel about this place. Sometimes it feels as if we’re not citizens with the same rights as everybody else – that we’re barely tolerated guests.
Paulina is over here right now from Poland, and I bet she feels a lot more welcome in this city – except when she’s being grilled by Border Force – than some of us do who’ve lived here our whole lives.
So nine people got arrested. Nine. Out of the many, many, many thousands who showed up for the party. Three of those arrests were inside the stadium, so that means only six people got arrested out of all those who were out on the streets.
There were also 15 fixed penalty notices handed out in total for the entire day involving our supporters. There were 60,000 of them at the game, and God knows how many more ended up in the Trongate for the big celebration.
So forgive me for not thinking World War III broke out in Glasgow yesterday. If there really had been “widespread disorder”, as the police described, I think there would have been slightly more than six people arrested.
I think there would have been slightly more than 15 fixed penalty notices handed out. That actually doesn’t sound to me terribly different from an average Saturday night in Glasgow. I wonder how many fixed penalty notices there are on an average weekend.
I’m also somewhat fascinated by this idea that there was all this widespread destruction of property.
A few broken traffic lights seem to be the best anyone can come up with. And I don’t know – since you know this event is coming twelve months in advance, might you not be able to put grilles over the traffic lights or something? They do that in other parts of the world, and it seems to work. Then there’s the usual talk about rubbish everywhere. Natural consequence of the council knowing an event like this was coming and not putting out extra bins or trash receptacles.
There are pictures today, and stories going around, about lots of Celtic fans who stayed after the party to help council workers clean up the rubbish. And here’s my suggestion on that – and maybe it’s sophomoric, maybe it’s childish and simplistic, maybe it doesn’t belong in the debate – but nobody should get away with not including it, because if you’re allowed to talk about one, then you’re allowed to talk about the other.
So, having done the first – having highlighted the number of arrests and the number of fixed penalties – I think we should look at those pictures. We should count how many Celtic fans are in them.
And if it’s more than 15, then our critics should shut the fuck up.
Because if you think you’re going to demonise the entire Celtic support – everyone who was there yesterday – based on six arrests and 15 fixed penalty notices, then it’s absolutely legitimate to ask how many of them helped clean up after the event. And if that number is higher, then the argument is over. There’s nowhere else for it to go.
You can’t highlight the bad and ignore the good. You can’t try to tar a whole event with the actions of a handful of idiots who spoiled the fun for everyone else, without also acknowledging the thousands who just wanted to enjoy themselves – and those who stayed to help clean up at the end.
That’s what really infuriates me about this whole shoddy debate.
From the start, it was clear our club did whatever it could to try and make this thing go more smoothly. They even suggested alternative venues for fans to gather. No one at the council was interested in helping facilitate that.
I suspect what they wanted was for the club to swallow the entire cost of the thing – which they should not do, and will not do.
You would not ask Bayern Munich to carry the cost of their fans celebrating in the city centre. Munich’s council would take it for granted and lay on enough provisions to minimise disruption.
This is the same council that couldn’t even be bothered to put out extra bins. They wouldn’t even make that one small, basic concession, which could have erased a lot of the negative headlines we’re reading today.
The point here is, it almost seems as if this whole thing has been framed to make our fans the bad guys no matter what.
The scheduling of an Orange Walk on the same day was clearly inflammatory. It was clearly dangerous. The council did it anyway.
Police Scotland – for all their foot-stamping over “not liking the decision” – you’d think that, being the number one body responsible for public safety, they could have vetoed it. They chose not to.
It just seems to me that the whole affair has been set up to make us look bad. That no matter what happened, they were ready to point fingers and say “look at the damage, look at the trouble”.
And for what purpose? What’s been achieved here?
A potentially explosive situation didn’t end in chaos.
Yes, there was an altercation in George Square – involving Orange Walk members throwing objects at Celtic fans on the way to the game. But again, the press wants to ignore that. They prefer to focus on two Celtic fans having a shouting match in the middle of a party and highlight that instead.
I know which one is a bigger deal. I think we all know which one is the bigger deal. I think we all know why that one wasn’t the one that made the headlines.
So the worst of the trouble didn’t happen. The worst of the damage wasn’t done. But the press got their headlines, and the council still got to complain.
And again I ask – what’s been achieved here?
The event will go ahead next year, whether it’s with approval or not, whether it’s with permission, proper policing, facilities, or council assistance. It will happen if Celtic are champions – and let’s face it, we will be.
The same party will take place. The same debate. The same argument. And if the council still wants to stand in opposition, the same outcome.
They chose not to be constructive and the result is all this moaning and pearl-clutching that makes our city sound like some banana republic backwater.
It’s done nobody any good. It hasn’t fixed anything. And it hasn’t changed the fact that this time next season, we’ll be having the same conversation, the same party, and reading virtually identical headlines.
Unless people get real. Unless the council becomes more constructive. Unless they and the wider community come together and acknowledge that this can’t keep happening in the same shambolic way. If they’re willing to work with Celtic and Celtic fans – instead of pushing us to the margins – then maybe it won’t happen like this next year. Maybe common sense will prevail, and it’ll be handled more professionally.
But they don’t get to preach. They don’t get to climb on their soapbox and crow. They don’t get to paint our fans as some hooligan rabble when that is far from the truth. They can point to a few bad actors – and those people will be prosecuted. Good luck to the police in getting their convictions. No one will complain. No one will defend those who deserve to be punished.
But I prefer to focus on the Celtic fans who stayed behind to help clean up. That’s the image of Glasgow I’d want in the papers. That’s what you’d promote – if you had any sense. If your intent wasn’t just to score cheap points at our expense, that’s what you’d highlight.
And I think it’s very telling what they’ve chosen to do instead. That’s why I’m not swayed by a single word of it. That’s why I’ve got limited sympathy for Police Scotland or the council’s stated view. It doesn’t impress me one bit.
Well done and Thank You to all for NOT listening to Glasgow City Council…
Well done and Thank You to all for NOT listening to Police Scotland…
Well done and Thank You to all for not listening to Celtic Football Club…
Well done and Thank You to everyone (99.999%) who got pissed, sang, danced, hugged, snogged, really everything good on the day and gave us all a great time…
And last but not least – Well Done to The Celtic Supporters who helped with the clean up !
The shameful riots in George square in 2021 during lockdown will never see their equal by any other fans .it is all about the one is as bad as the other reporting in the gutless press. Next Monday which is a bank Holiday liverpool will parade the league trophy around part of the city. The size of the crowd will dwarf the trongate one there will be litter but there will be no negative reporting about it. The money spent by the crowd will far exceed any clean up costs.
With the Pathological Lies and Pathological Liars employed by The Scummy’s I think we should all change the name of Not so Bonnie Scotland to….
LIARLAND !!!!
Off topic – But Just heard on Radio News Bulliten That Fergushun has ‘parted company’ with Sevco…
Guuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuutted So I am !
Media as expected, just lookin for a negative slant tae lay on our support. What ah’ve seen and before our game even started, are what looks like, a handful of Celtic fans walkin about here or there, no really bothering their arse and that mobs followers goadin them. Meanwhile, the ‘pantheons of righteousness and good will ‘, along with their followers and SUPPOSEDLY tae mark a VE day memorial, are playin and singin, the same songs of anti-catholic bile and hate. No hard tae see, or point out, the shameless, disrespectful hypocrisy there is it ? Ah suppose, no-one on the allied forces side, who died or survived the fighting, were Catholic. Tho that’s no apparently worth mentionin.
Talking of authorities and media hypocrisy.
How come it’s considered wrong for fans to throw things onto the pitch and or at players, which of course it is, but okay and just a wee bit of over excitement for rangers players to throw items at and cover supporters in liquid from a bottle.
How come it’s considered okay for the ex manager of that club to say that that’s what he wants to see from his players.
Seriously this is one corrupt bigoted country
Glasgow City Council are a bunch of lazy Barstewards. The city hospitality sector and retail sector make lots of money from Celtic fans throughout the season, and from business rates etc the council benefits financially, Airlines, Scotrail and Bus companies rake in money from football fans, whilst probably a good bit less than 1% cause any trouble but all you ever hear
is criticism never any praise for the thousands of fans and clubs who do good work for charities, food banks etc. Yet the city can’t lay on a celebration venue, that if planned well enough, could pay for itself. Most people in Scotland resent our great club and its supporters. Fxxk them all.
Micmac, off course they resent us, it was never meant to be this way
The helping hand from officialdom ensured that another Klub was allowed to play out of the DebtDome and no mention was made in our Meedjia or by our elected officials of the sheer hypocrisy verging on illegality of the The Tribute Act adopting the mantle of DeidCo. Timid Timmy is just meant tae shut up and grin and bear it and become complicit in a mind bending distortion of reality. Lie after lie after lie for the last 12/13 years. They’ve been trading while insolvent for most of that period and the Authorities just turn a blind eye in the hope that another Insolvency event doesn’t finally prove fatal for The Tribute Act.
If this Fakeover / Takeover falls through they are Friar Tucked and hopefully permanently. There won’t be the same appetite from wealthy Staunch benefactors having witnessed the obscene losses made over the past decade.
Then hopefully, perhaps Scotland will start to grow up.
A lot of other fans in Scotland especially the younger ones of other clubs are really starting to detest them now Micmac…
They’d probably prefer us outta the two…
Perhaps Falkirk and Airdrie United apart who probably side with them instead !
James – you touch on what I would call “court room questions” for Glasgow Council and Police Scotland in your article. Specifically:
1. How many arrests were made in Glasgow in the 24 hours from 12 noon Saturday and how does this compare to the average for that period. (I am pretty sure there would be zero difference)
2. Given the OO march in the morning did GCC clean up the streets immediately afterwards? If not how can they determine who littered where?
3. Given the OO march did GCC empty the bins during the course of Saturday morning and afternoon on the basis of increased foot traffic from the OO. And if they did, who paid for this additional cost?
4. Can GCC please advise how much Celtic FC contribute to the Glasgow economy on an annual basis? (btw they know this figure)
And then, having answered these questions, can GCC issue a statement of apology and thanks to CFC
James a bit of point I know you don’t want answer comments but I’m looking for help, I’m an avid follower of your stuff you’ve spoken before about the media pretending to be celtic blogs and I think I’ve sussed most, do you know much about 67hail hail, could have been an error but talking about when rangers got bombed out of the top league and I’m thinking really? A celtic site
They took the # 67 and hail hail and conflated them to make it look celtic , it is not a “celtic” blog on the contrary. Hammer in neg comment and see how long it takes to get blocked
I was going to mention that bombed out reference last night but it was too near bedtime another one is celts are here which has us level on 55. They are not celtic sites that is a certainty
You’ll prolly find when the huns were out in force in George Sq there were actually fewer arrests because of the violent nature of their get togethers the polis would stand off more.
Some photos posted by some sites were old pictures trying to get a reaction… Some well known bloggers were down the trongate Sunday morning videoing and he place was very tidy barring some stickers. It was a real video, I know as I saw some women suited up to do the run at Glasgow green like my daughter yesterday.
Have to say though Glasgow green with a couple of bands and some food and refreshments would be a great place to celebrate. GCC take note for the next 6 seasons to Terry Munro.