Yesterday, the SFA’s general meeting was held and all the talk is of an organisation that’s suddenly got very serious about pyro. The ultimate threat now being floated? Expulsion from the domestic cup competition. Wow. Sounds extreme, doesn’t it? Sounds like the sort of sanction every club should be terrified of. But are they?
Look, it’s a bold thing to put on the statute book.
It sounds like they mean business. But I would bet every penny in my pocket and every penny in the bank that no club will ever be banned from the Scottish Cup over pyro use. Fill in a form wrong? Sure—unless you’re based out of Ibrox, of course, in which case you’ll get away with it. But pyro in the stands? Considering some of the behaviour we’ve seen in Scottish football over the years?
There’s more chance of seeing Santa Claus in goal for Celtic in next season’s Champions League than there is of a club actually being handed that kind of sanction. The SFA is very good at looking tough and talking tough. But being tough? They’re hopeless at it. And fans up and down the country know it.
I’ve called on the SFA before to actually be tough—not just play-act at it. We’ve had regulations on the books for years about fan behaviour in the stands, but there’s always a slippery little get-out clause. Always a convenient excuse not to act.
The excuse that’s been used for years when it comes to the bigoted singing pouring out of the Ibrox stands is that if the club can demonstrate they’ve done everything reasonable to stop it, they’re off the hook.
Well, they’ve asked the fans to stop. They’ve run the Everyone, Anyone campaign—or whatever it’s called. That, apparently, is good enough for the SFA. It’s nonsense. It’s PR fluff. But PR fluff is enough to pass muster.
So what’s the small print on this rule? What’s the get-out clause this time? Because there has to be one. There’s always a get-out clause.
There is no way the SFA is going to put itself in a position where it might actually have to follow through on this. No way they’re going to open the door to punishing clubs at that level. Not really. Not over pyro. That would require a level of bottle and backbone the SFA just does not possess.
Just as the news of this was still settling in my brain, the SPFL issued a Notice of Complaint against Celtic for an un-named incident which happened at the end of last season. As every Celtic site which has written about this has already pointed out, they have not issued any Notice of Complaint against the Ibrox club for the behaviour of its fans in pelting Celtic players with objects … and as for the bigoted singing or those shameful banners? Don’t make me laugh.
This offends me on a moral level. I am sure I’m not alone.
We’ve had our players pelted with objects for years in matches against their club. We’ve had our staff targeted. We’ve had our fans abused. And we’ve endured the sickening chants out of their ground for years.
And nothing has ever been done. Nothing real. But now, a couple of years into the whole pyro phenomenon, clubs are losing Hampden ticket allocations, and now we’ve got the threat of expulsion from competitions and Notices of Complaint?
If only we’d known it was that easy to get things done.
Because clearly, it was always that easy.
They just didn’t think we were worth the effort. Protecting us was never a priority. Eradicating hate songs from the stands, from the game altogether, was clearly never something that moved those in power. Nor, it seems, does it seem to be a priority to sanction clubs whose supporter throw things at rival players … err … well, one club anyway, as others are clearly in the firing line for it.
How can you take these hypocritical bastards seriously?
I mean I do get it. When you consider the kinds of people who’ve held power at the SFA, I’m quite sure some of them know all the words to the sectarian songs themselves. Certain former Scotland managers definitely do.
But whatever we got a Notice of Complaint here for, it was surely not as serious as the objects thrown at our players, right? So are we taking this lying down? I would think that our club will have a statement out before the end of the day. If some of our fans have been out of order I’m sure that’ll be reflected in what we say … but we can’t stay silent on the bigger issue, which is the selective nature of this?
I hate fake posturing. I hate window dressing. Celtic will take this seriously—because they have to. The club will make it clear to fans that this is serious. But Celtic should fight whatever this is tooth and nail, with every weapon in the arsenal.
If the “governing bodies” had any guts, those games that led to us banning Ibrox fans from Celtic Park would have ended in sanctions. Serious ones. Punishments that would have made our ban unnecessary. But they didn’t act. Taking a couple of hundred tickets off a club—that’s about as far as their courage extends.
Even now they can’t bring themselves to open the case against the Ibrox club which the behaviour of their fans richly deserves, and I’m not here defending our own fans who might have crossed the line on occasion. We know that there’s a section of our support which needs a hard lesson. But why should we stomach hypocrisy? Why should we accept a double standard as blatant as this?
Because the problem here isn’t just pyro—it’s decades of inaction on other issues, decades of ignoring songs of hate and bile which any other association would have banned. It’s years of failing to act when our staff and players and fans have come under bombardment. Sanctioning us right now when they’ve gotten off scott-free is an outrage. Years of misbehaviour in their stands has resulted in no sanctions at all and now we’re in the firing line?
The SPFL leadership are gutless frauds. Their cowardice damns them.
The SFA are a bunch of cowards, I remember a few seasons ago when sevco were in the championship and Hibs beat them to the title, and Motherwell beat them in the playoffs , the SFA had a meeting shortly afterwards to try and push through a motion for more clubs to be promoted from the championship. After sevco won the championship league the following season the Motion was dropped and never heard from again. Bunch of corrupt twats. Im surprised there has never been a riot outside hampden to have these clowns evicted they are holding Scottish Football back.
They are nearly as spineless and corrupt as that mob that call themselves the Celtic Board.
As they say in all the good cop dramas,”follow the money”.
It’s all just a big con to get the mug punters to part with their cash.
Pleased to see your persistence on pyro and calling out the SFA for their performative theatre on the subject.
What will be their response to what god forbid, there is a serious injury or death as a result of the irresponsible behaviour of so called fans?
It 40 years since Bradford and whilst many stadia have improved beyond recognition, it wouldn’t take much to go wrong with a pyro device to cause panic. Firm sanctions on clubs is the only to stamp out this menace. Once again a dereliction of duty from Scotland’s football, and it took much to expect the Scottish Government to intervene yet a football ground is still a workplace and those who work there and fans who go their should be protected so why not use existing health and safety legislation to prosecute clubs
Our board are the biggest cowards in all of this
I looked at The Dumbarton and Vale Reporter today – A paper I used to read when I lived with ma girlfriends there (at separate times I must add)…
So tragically Dumbarton FC have died and ‘reformed’ as a ‘newco’ (lets cut the fuckin chase and call it a NEW CLUB – exactly what it is)…
They are to be called Dumbarton Football Club Ltd. 1872…
They are in the bottom league anyway but have been given a ‘formal waiver’ by The governing bodies to actually fuckin stay there…
Much as I’ve a soft spot for Dumbarton – A good Celtic leaning town when I was there – What will Gretna think about this kinda ‘let off’
If Sevco goes tits up like Dumbarton they will receive the same favoured ‘formal waiver’ – Dump the debt and stay in your league – I think they fiddled with the rules when the original SFA and SPL and SFL merged to become The (Scummy) SPFL…
So just to be clear to those Celtic supporters who say we should ‘forget’ about Sevco – When they spend, spend, spend, spend, to buy success at our expense in Scotland and go tits up it’ll be an easy get out for them this time around for sure with these sleazy Scummy fuckers of ‘governing’ bodies in charge…
Finally in fairness to (The Late Dumbarton FC c. 1872 – 2005) they didn’t run up the debts chasing football glory, it all accumulated from unscrupulous owners using them as a useful pawn pasty for prime land grabs around their stadium footprint…
And the Scummy SFA found them – Of course these bastards would – as ‘fit and proper persons’ !
Clach – the BBC sports page covers this story and (before someone edits it) states quite clearly that the (original) Club will be dissolved and replaced by a new club and company and the old club’s licence transferred to the new club. It then goes on to say “Rangers faced a similar situation in 2012”.
As clear an admission of different clubs (and the death/dissolution of one) that I’ve seen in a long time in the SMSM. I’ve saved a screenshot before the attempts to gaslight us all start again with updated text!
Great Spot Porto Joe !
You should send it if ya can to Joe McHugh at Video Celts…
He will make a good effort to shame BBC Scotland on the back of it…
There again – No One can shame The fuckin BBC Football Division in Scotland !!!
James:
Why don’t Celtic and any other club, threaten to withdraw from the scottish cups, unless all the bigoted songs cease at least during cup games.
And follow through with it by boycotting the cup games for one season.
I think this would get the attention of the sponsors, plus the English media down south.
this would cause an uproar. And point to the Ibrox club for what they are. Bigots