16 thoughts on “Ibrox beats the odds again with another home cup draw.

  1. Although it seems a bit out of range for the draw of consecutive home games, I think they’ve just gotten the “luck of the draw”. I actually said to my partner that I hoped we would be drawn with them at Ibrox. We can make a serious dent in their season ambition by knocking them out of the League Cup, and possibly stretching our lead in the league the following weekend. Bring it on. On a side note, it will be interesting to see how the police and the Ibrox club manage this game even with a reduced allocation for Celtic fans. What do you think will happen, James?

  2. I said it was 12 yesterday, it’s 11. Not a deliberate exaggeration, I just thought it was 11 before the draw. Hopefully the law of averages starts levelling it out and they’ve got years of away ties to look forward to.

  3. Between 2015 and 2017 the tribute act had a run of 12 consecutive home draws in cups, another statistical anomaly, coupled with the current bun, I mean run, what’s the chances of that happening to the same club again?
    I can’t help but imagine the fallout if these were all away fixtures, they’d be spitting so many feathers Ibrox would look like a drag queens wardrobe.

  4. I don’t think the reason for manipulating this draw will be purely financial in the “establishment” club’s favour. It offers the best possibility of them winning the league cup, the last chance to play Celtic at home before the semi finals and/or final. This has also formed a sequence recently as I think it’s happened three times.

    The other oddity about it is that when it’s not deemed necessary to draw Celtic at home, they usually draw the weakest team left in the competition. If you can factor this into the odds of this happening it would only lead to one conclusion.

  5. What makes it even stranger though is that, what ever “establishment” forces made this draw happen, are surely part of the same “establishment” that have come under pressure for their part in the previous cup-tie at Ibrox. You would’ve thought they’d want to avoid a repeat.

  6. As a guy who likes a bet, 11 home ties in a row is pretty suspicious, I wonder if it has happened before for any Scottish club, and if Brattbak is correct that it happened to the tribute act 12 times between 2015-17 it becomes more than suspicious. If there was anything going on I would think it would primarily be for financial reasons, but a bit of help competitively comes in handy.
    All I would say is that having watched The Rangers a few times this season on TV, in my opinion they are a very ordinary team, even yesterday St Mirren’s Kamikaze defending helped them big time. Get our act together and we should overcome any advantage the home draw gives them.

  7. I remember back to the decades of the old firm, Celtic and Rangers avoided each other in the draw for the Scottish Cup all the way to the final for many years.

    A Scottish Maths Professor was recruited by the media to work out the odds of this happening based on the laws of probability, and it was over 2,000,000 to 1.

  8. Just a thought, maybe the Football authorities in Scotland have decided to try and make things look more competitive, and these continuous home draws are one way of trying to do it.
    It may be that it is only a case of an outside bet coming up, but I would bet that if by chance the Ibrox mob get to the semis, their number will come out of the hat 2nd or 4th at Hampden. The odds on that is only even money and anybody who has bet The Rangers getting drawn away in the last 11 draws at even money, is on some losing streak, if he doubed his bet each time he has lost a hell of a lot of money and gamblers anonymous beckons.

  9. Why not take the human factor away altogether?

    Do it like the national lottery.

    However there is something seriously odd about this sequence of home draws.

  10. The odds of 1024 to 1 are not quite as high as Leicester winning the EPL or any of us winning the lottery. but they’re heading in that direction if it continues.

    Just as strange is the usual Ibrox conspiracy theorists (fans and media) who rant at refereeing decisions since VAR was introduced, yet appear to be silent on the issue of continuous home cup draws.

  11. Derren Brown did a show about gambling and probability, where he tossed a coin for 10 heads in a row. To achieve the result it took hours of filming over an entire weekend.
    I had to laugh about their fans wanting to lock us out, regardless of how many tickets we get, we are due 45% of gate money.

  12. Interesting stuff James but are we really saying the draw has been fixed 12 times in a row. Is this the tie they really want just now? Im not sure.
    I also remember the great suspicion over the cup draws when the “old firm” were always kept apart which was to the detriment of all the other clubs. Apparantly this was to give the best possible chance of an “old firm” final or at least one of them in the final. I wonder if anyone ever worked out the odds back then. I remember the great shock when that ended as nobody expected a draw before the final but after that it became fairly common.

    Ive looked into this because it is a strange coincidence but hard to get details of the actual draws. The famous Rod Stewart Alan Stubbs one when Rod was drunk comes up in searches and that was a home draw at Ibrox. A fix? not sure about that one.
    If it is a fix I would think they would draw them away for games against teams like Annan surely? Of course the home draw against Annan could be a legit draw but the big ones against us are the ones that are fixed. I honestly think at this stage this is the 2nd worst draw they could get. 2nd only to us at home.
    Another interesting stat out of all this for me, is that throughout this entire run of “coincidences” they have won zero trophies, so long may it continue.

    1. As per my earlier post, re the every season old firm cup finals, ea Scottish Maths Professor was recruited by the media to work out the odds of this happening based on the laws of probability, and it was over 2,000,000 to 1.

  13. Had a look at this regarding the scottish cup only, there was a period of 20 years between 1970 and 1990 when the 2 glasgow clubs avoided each other apart from the final. They played each other 5 times in the final but never beforehand despite both teams being in the semi final draw together many times. There used to be an inevitability about it with the other 2 teams in the semi draw fully expecting to draw either us or them. The thinking was the SFA wanted us or them, preferably both, in the final to maximise revenue from the punters. It was a massive surprise to everyone even the folk making the draw when we were drawn at home to them in the 4th round in 1990. We got them again the next year at home again in the quarter finals the St Patrick’s day massacre if anyone remembers it?

    I think the draw has been fair since then…it seems improbable that both competitions, are currently fixed, it just looks logistically difficult especially if you have a drunk Rod Stewart involved…but who knows?

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