20 thoughts on “Celtic goes into tomorrow’s Champions League game still woefully undermanned.

  1. The position that worries me or tomorrow is the right back position. AJ could not have gotten injured at a worse time, for his back ups AR and CD are not nearly good enough to do a solid job in his place. That area is there to be exploited by the opposition and I would even play either Scales or Tierney there to begin with, for we need someone we can depend upon.

  2. Im not worried about tomorrows game. We are playing the Austrian champions. Whoever gets through is going to get slapped about the UCL.
    The Austrian league is higher quality than the scottish league as we saw in the Hearts game. Austria has twice the population of Scotland so we certainly shouldn’t feel entitled to win games against these sort of teams.
    We have won 14 out of 15 titles. If we played in the Austrian league we would be lucky to have won 2 or 3.
    Look at what Salzburg did to us when Rodgers was here and Deila also I believe.
    James a couple of seasons ago you were saying we could win the europa league if we ever played in it. While I think that is an exaggeration it is far closer to our level. What PSG and Arsenal play is an entirely different ball game.

    1. Spot on James, these clowns on the board will hope we dont qualify so they don’t need to pay add ons to the transfers, when there is a £50 million bounty sitting to be claimed

  3. It is all utterly exasperating. The dates for this game were known months ago. The board should have planned for Engels’ replacement the minute that first bid from Nottingham Forest came in with a view to having him the door days after the transfer window opened. The guiding principle must always be to have new players signed in the summer window early so they are fully ready for the first competitive game of a new season. It’s not rocket science – though it apparently is to this board.

  4. For those who don’t know, the Austrian Bundesliga is ranked 27th place in Europe’s League system, the Scottish Premier League is ranked 42nd. So we are going to have our work cut out to win this tie, it’s a real toughie and we can take nothing for granted.

    1. This is possibly the hardest draw we could have got. The Norewgian champs probably the only one that was tougher.
      We really suffer because our league is so easy to win.

  5. Again I need to ask:
    If Hassan and Baur were signed too late to be ready to prepare for this tie, then can another signing made one day before the match be ready to do the same thing?

  6. I know it’s a cliche but the midfield is the engine room of the team, if part of that isn’t functioning then the whole team doesn’t function properly. The Celtic recruitment policy is a mystery, Bernardo loaned out, Engels sold and OX suspended then panic Baur who could have been signed weeks ago is suddenly in the door, with Celtic paying the full whack, another bit of failed poker playing. If there’s a way of bringing criticism upon themselves, the people in charge of our recruitment will find it. If the players available, i.e McGregor, Nygren,Baur, McCowan and Hatate can play to their best, then we could get out of jail.
    I’m a glass half full guy and maybe a bit naive for a guy of my age, but I can’t help but think back to MON’s run to Seville which started out with being dumped out of the CL in the final qualifier against Basel. Then the road to Seville was opened up in the UEFA Cup, and gave the support great memories, although I’ve got to say the quality of that team was a good bit better than our present day team.

  7. I agree micmac, the europa league is more our level and UCL would be about money only.. apart from the fact we might see some of the best teams in the world. Anyone who gets a group match v Celtic or LASK in the UCL will see it as a favourable draw.

    As you say MONs team of quarter a century ago was streets ahead of the current side.

    Remember that Basel team knocked Liverpool out of the UCL too, setting up a very memorable UEFA cup tie.

  8. Sorry to say Hassan looked overweight and couldn’t run the length of himself …..I don’t think he will be in a position to threaten defenders for a while .
    Possibly a late 15 minute sub until end of Sept.

  9. I’m with micmac and Mr Mojorisin here when it comes to football levels. I don’t think we are good enough to win the Europa League but it’s not impossible. It’s harder now because of the route it gives to the following season’s CL as there is that extra motivation for big 5 league teams who might be out of the running at home. Celtic winning the Europa League would be akin to Aberdeen winning the Scottish Cup – it can and does happen. Celtic’s chances of winning the Champions League are less than Scotland’s winning the World Cup.
    I don’t understand why Bernardo was loaned out so early in the window especially considering that both Engels and Hatate were expected to leave. I do understand why Engels left when he did – injuries can happen at anytime and he is now protected with a more lucrative, longer term contract in the place (London) that he wants to be. Of course we should have had a replacement in the door but then even clubs like Man City can struggle with Rodri leaving them a very big hole to fill.
    Tomorrow will be tough but what follows for the winners will be tougher still.

  10. I want to be in the champions league, we might not be capable of winning it but you want to play against the best surely? Also the financial rewards are significant and we’re not likely to be back in it for a while. Hassan didn’t look near fit and Baur is obviously still finding his feet though you’d have to think that champions league football was part of the appeal for them joining so it would be daft not to use them. I definitely wouldn’t start Hassan mind you.

    1. Brattbakk – I think it depends on the player as to whether he wants to test himself. Someone like McGregor will know his level and that he is heading for night of pain against a PSG or an Arsenal. The younger players will probably see it as an opportunity to get seen (with a view to a move…). It won’t happen but what UEFA needs to do is adjust the revenue share across its three competitions (and that would include increasing the payments to national associations to distribute to non-competing teams (otherwise the gap between rich and poor will grow). Miguel Delaney’s book States of Play is a good read on the subject of money and politics destroying our game.

      1. Yeah, great post porto.

        Presently the players dont give a fuck about the UCL.
        Celtic is a stepping stone..look at Engels and Maeda. They are leaving Celtic with very little chance of champions league football ever again but they also know celtic are going to get fucked daft in the UCL by the big boys with zero chance of progression.
        Celtic is a stepping stone, easy trophies then move on to see if they can make it in the big time..most wont be good enough.
        For every 100 Gary Hoopers or Kyogos you will get 1 VVD.

    2. Brattbakk, we honestly don’t belong in the UCL. Some were raving when we got to the last 24 a couple of years ago but we got a fantastic draw. Still Dortmund put 7 past us. We honestly dont belong there and in the last 15 years many teams have put 5, 6 or 7 past us. We have taken the biggest gubbings in scottish football history over a short space of time. The only reason it hasn’t been double figures is because teams ease off after 5 or 6 and put a load of subs on.
      One day it will be double figures though.

      Europa league is where we should be. UCL is prostitution, capitalist greed and humiliation!

      1. I’ve looked at the potential pots for the CL league phase an anyone, including other pot one teams, can lose by 6 or 7 to the teams in pot one. With pots two and three you need a bit of luck with the draw and pot four is where we should be looking for 6 points. Even in the last 16 last year, Bayern beat Atalanta 10-2 on aggregate, Barca beat Newcastle 7-2 at the Camp Nou, sometimes the top teams hit form and you get a doing. It’s not unique to Celtic and it’s still the biggest show in football.

        1. PSG beat us 5-0 at CP and 7-1 in Paris. It could easy be more. Of course its not unique to us but there is an inevitability about it.
          8-0 is our record defeat.
          Only luck that it hasn’t been beaten in the last 15 years.

          We are making up the numbers with zero chance of winning it.

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