17 thoughts on “Celtic cannot get a pass for this window when one massive hole remains in the squad.”

  1. I think that role has no value whatsoever. Whichever midfielder has the ball his priority should be to make things happen and not pass the ball back or sideways. His first thought should be how can I create a move not pass it three yards and say you do it.
    Tommy Gemmell once said if he hadn’t scored when Jim Craig passed him the ball for the second Lisbon goal, Stein would have killed him because it would have meant both backs were up the field at the same time. A No No.
    Similarly the midfielder with the ball should move forward and the others move in and cover for him. This allows an element of surprise but for 5 years now Celtic’s slow play allows the opposition to get organised. Other teams know Celtic’ default is the midfield to pussy foot around and this is why they have reverted to type in the boring second haves. Those guilty players should be hooked the minute they start to stroll. I am a holding midfielder “I don’t interfere with the play”.
    Granted modern managers do not have Stein genius simplicity.

  2. Hatate left the building two years ago. Bernardo never even entered it. Engels was talked up far beyond anything he actually produced. And McGregor isn’t a metronome or a defensive midfielder — he’s been miscast for years, and every time we get sliced through the middle it’s obvious.

    Neil Lennon was a success in that role because he could protect the ball, he could pass it, and he instinctively understood the defensive side of midfield. That’s the kind of profile we’ve been missing for years.

    And it’s worth remembering the wider picture: Celtic haven’t won a European knockout tie over two legs since 2004 — back when Lennon was in his pomp. The hole in midfield isn’t theoretical. It’s been there for a long, long time.

  3. I think we just need more players who are genuinely comfortable in possession. Gone are the days of bone?crunching tackles and “destroyers” in midfield. Modern football is about controlling the ball, controlling space, and controlling transitions. The teams who progress in Europe aren’t the ones flying into 50/50s — they’re the ones who can take the sting out of a game, recycle possession under pressure, and keep the ball moving with purpose.

    1. Exactly this – look at Vitinha at PSG who is one of the best in the world at this role but is less than 5’8”. His awareness of space and others underpins his confidence on the ball as he always feels in complete control.

  4. I’m not sure where the evidence is that Gineitis would’ve been the final piece of the jigsaw. Celtic have tracked him for months but when was the last time that was used a measure of a player’s potential to improve Celtic?

    Correct me if I’m wrong but have Celtic not just made 6 permanent first team ready signings and 4 loan signings as back-up in defence and attack?

    If so then why is it such a disastrous window?

    1. DannyGal – maybe be that the narrative was set beforehand – that our recruitment team and board would make a mess of it? As far as I can tell so far, we have exited this window much stronger than we entered it. We’ve got competition at GK and have added real goal threats at the other end of the pitch. Baur has looked good in midfield and obviously early days for the other two. However AOC has also impressed and if he can stay fit will be a player we didn’t really get much time from last season.
      Defensively we all want to see AJ back sooner rather than later, but we have added cover there.

  5. I’m with you Cgreen, issue for me is that our midfield (certainly against LASK, but also evident against Dundee Utd) don’t cover for each other. Nygren is more of a foil for a striker – great for getting into forward positions but not one to get back inside his own final third. So we end up outnumbered when teams are attacking through the middle of the pitch.
    I am curious as to what shape MON will settle on with the players at his disposal to deal with our soft centre. On first viewings, Duran needs to play through the middle given his goal threat and you would have thought he would be partnered by Hogh. That being the case, do we then go 4-4-2 or 3-5-2? On paper we look to have a squad that is strong enough for the domestic campaign with Europe on top where we can hopefully improve our coefficient.

  6. I’ve a feeling Duran will play on the left of Hogh with Hassan on the right.
    We could also see Nygren edged out of midfield if the new guys show up well.

    1. Danny. Not sure about Nygren. James did an article about him just over a week ago saying he was a monster who we must keep at all costs.
      It was hard to argue at the time, but it was largely based on one game v LASK where the scoreline severely flattered us. I honestly dont think we can judge our top players v domestic opposition.

      For me the jury is still out on Nygren.

  7. James, big Kasper cost more than the entire LASK squad.
    Anyone who watched the UCL last year knows what he can do. Bodo another team that spends far less on players than us fucked over one of the richest teams on the planet.
    Meanwhile we buy one of their best players and get fucked stupid by minnows. MON like Brendan before him is not cut out for UCL football. Jesus, Brendan was a disaster in europe with Liverpool

    Hey…. the board are ultimately responsible for all of this..I couldn’t agree more, they are responsible for all the domestic trinkets but equally responsible for all the fuck ups in the bigtime!

  8. The left back situation is just as bad. We let 2 contracted players, Montgomery and Inamura both leave on loan and failed to secure Saracchi on a permanent deal. Leaving us now with a currently injured 18YO loanee as our back-up option. And he isn’t even in the Europa squad. Madness!!

  9. The central M/F defensive position at Celtic has never really been filled since Neil Lennon, Brown filled it pretty well for a few years, but wasn’t a real natural, as he liked to get around the park and influence the game more. In domestic football we don’t really need someone to fill that role and that’s a problem when we play in Europe, as was shown against Lask. I myself don’t think that football disaster was down to a lack of a specialised defensive M/F player. In my opinion it was the fault of the manager and coaching staff not realising that our system had to be changed drastically at half time. We were left wide open, with players caught way up the park when losing possession until 3-1, then we defended in a panic stricken manner with absolutely no control of the ball.
    In my opinion any competent midfielder should be able to play in a defensive role these days, if he is disciplined enough. The days of big physical players flying into tackles is over, defenders these days have to close players down quickly, anticipate and intercept more than tackle.
    I’ve been happy with a lot of our signings, some should have been brought in sooner, mild criticism is justified, but the hysteria from some quarters is way over the top.
    The one player missing from this squad that has left me scratching my head is Saracchi, we’re left with Keiran Tierney as the only half fit L/B in the building. What the hell was that all about.
    I’m settling down to watch, now that the window is shut, we’ll know very quickly what kind of squad we have.

  10. James F — we do not need this type of player because of the way we play.

    We as a team / squad / club do not put in tackles.
    Yang — on the left wing — puts in more tackles than anyone else.

    We can win most games in the SPL without tackling.
    We can press to nick the ball or we just wait to SPL style teams mis-place a pass.
    Which is usually enough to get us by.

    Europe is a different story — teams fight for the ball and we look lost.
    Not used to a battle we look weak even though we can be strong when set up for a physical challenge. Taken by surprise by Euro opposition putting it about we look as weak as milk toast.

    Season after season — rinse and repeat.
    Caught off guard in the Euro qualifiers we get reamed time after time.

    Play the games in November and we are much more competitive.
    Play the games in August and we get turned over time after time.
    When will we ever learn?

    1. I think our biggest obstacle is playing in SPFL. It’s too easy and our players have unhealthy ideas about their abilities. Perhaps even the manager does. The Board doesn’t seem to care.

  11. Having watched Saturday’s display against St Mirren, I have to concede that James and others may turn out to be correct when they said that Celtic needed more strengthening in defence with a physical defensive midfielder in front of them.

    I was bit shocked that St Mirren could expose those deficiencies to the point where I can see where those concerns came from, in domestic football as well as in Europe.

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