9 thoughts on “Two Chelsea academy loanees are two different kinds of failure at Celtic.”

  1. We haven’t strengthened in one of the most important areas, our central defence. It was brutally exposed in Austria and now, this failure will only lead tae more of the same. How this board, or Shaun Maloney can’t see that is beyond belief.

  2. I think the argument falls down a little when you loan out McCardle, Hatton and Montgomery just before bringing in the young foreign loanees, and just before today’s youth development summit.

    1. Well said DG! I have stopped moaning about it because they have signed Hassam, Hoag and Duran but it doesn’t make it any less of a scandal. Partick thistle and Ayr United respectively for the first two!
      I think it was politics as they were threatening the positions of powerful players and there can be no other reason.

  3. You can’t develop from youth football to first team if you have no one to play and test yourself against. That is the fundamental weakness to our pathway and what is different from McGeady’s time. Reserve team football provided that bridge. In England the u21 and u23 leagues allows development to continue.
    I’m convinced that re-establishing a reserve league would pay dividends for all teams in the SPFL and the national team. It would also help us to recruit better technical staff to the Academy as we would be able to show a better working environment for those individuals.
    It also doesn’t help that our best 16 year olds get cherry picked by the EPL teams. UEFA needs to do more to support the smaller leagues here (don’t hold your breath), as this also exacerbates the lack of competitive balance in its competitions with the 4+4 rule on squad make-up. For example allowing smaller leagues to nominate one country as associated with it for development purposes would make a difference – Scotland could nominate England and then allow us to name AOC as one of our 4+4. I’m sure there are other things that could be considered.

    1. You make a good point but I think what else is missing nowadays is the idea of coaching skills.
      Kennedy was a great defender but if he was still at Celtic what could he teach Duran, Hogh or Hassam. Nothing. The best they can do is to make sure they keep practicing what they already know or better still the coaches should be looking at other players and trying to learn how to do their tricks and then pass them on without necessarily be able to do them themselves.
      ‘Talent borrows; genius steals.’ as the saying goes.
      Every Celtic player should now know how to shoot like Duran even if he won’t tell us his secret, the coaches should be studying that goal and working how he hit it so hard without it going over the bar. So the likes of Yang and Baur etc. should be spending the week practising shooting with a this new technique but I can assure you they won’t be. We were taught keep your knee over the ball when shooting and I still don’t know what it means but techniques can be taught if you have players willing to learn but I am guessing modern players would be insulted.
      I would draft in Sutton to give Hogh a few pointers in how to be a target man. I am sure he would love to but would Hogh listen?
      I don’t think they work hard enough in training to improve as lack of fitness and regression seems to be the order of the day at Celtic. Quite a few of our “stars” struggle at other clubs and I think it is much more is expected of them then getting rid of the ball as quickly as possible.

      1. Cgreen, agree on the coaching skills piece. I think the majority of players believe they are skilful enough and don’t really look to improve these – a few fun rondos and then games to regiment how the ball is
        progressed. Technique plays such a greater importance across Europe and having that confidence in your technique imbues confidence during matches.
        You also see it in other sports – tennis, golf, cricket the focus is on technique. In track and field athletes often have to relearn how to run! Every impression that at Lennoxtown, the coaches know how to put the cones out and not a lot more!

        1. Absolutely. Alex Ferguson said Beckham stayed behind in training, practicing free kicks when everyone else had gone home and that particular skill has probably been responsible for a large part of his success but he wasn’t born with it.
          The old saying for musicians ” How do you get to Carnegie Hall?”- “Practice ”
          Shooting and keeping it low should be second nature to a professional. How many times do we see them “blooter” it over the bar and then look to the heavens as if it is God’s fault.

  4. “Yes, signing two players on loan from Chelsea’s development system is a failure of scouting and a failure of club ambition in one sense, no matter how good those players might be.”

    This, to me, is the work of our new talent spotter (can’t remember his proper title). Didn’t he come from Chelsea? And i’m not giving this Board an out but maybe all these loan ideas are his? Still doesn’t make the situation any more acceptable. Just sharing my thoughts.

  5. I have heard a rumour that certain board members have been arrested a la the Sevco owner but rather than as clients they were trying to make some money to finance all these outgoings. I might be wrong but…

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