27 thoughts on “The Ange Postecoglou Story A Lot Of Celtic Fans Must Wish They’d Heard Sooner.

  1. He’s leaving for a job in the strongest league in the world, a potential top 6 club at that and rumors are he’s going to be making 5 – 8 times his salary at Celtic. We’re talking life changing money, generational wealth here. He inherited a mess, got us playing an exciting brand of football in no real time at all and made some incredible signings. Brought us 5 trophies along the way. He’s laid decent foundations going forward and hopefully the board learn from the last 2 years and don’t go back to their old ways. I’ll miss him terribly, but i wish him luck and hope he continues to prove the doubters wrong.

    1. Well said Scotty. Ange is a professional manager, not a fan. I don’t think James’s cynicism is justified. Why would Ange want to spoil the mood after wining a major trophy? Real professionals look after their own interests for sure but they are not brutes. James will get over it but I guess he needs to vent for a while.

  2. Best comment and analysis I have seen and very interesting parallels from past Aussie club. You can fool all the people – if you are good enough!

    1. He never fooled all the people though he only fooled the gullible. It’s groundhog day for some of the folk who genuinely believed that BR was ‘here’ for 10 and beyond….It’s almost as if they learned nothing from that passage in our history. Only fools think that a manager on the cusp of a historic treble would come out days before the final and declare ‘I’m off to Spurs after the cup final’. And there lies the heart of the matter. People aren’t upset that Ange ‘lied’ and has now left the building….They’re upset because it has exposed their own gullibility.

  3. We’ve had a great couple of seasons and the real supporters say ‘thanks for the memories’ and will get right behind the new Boss. You should write for a Hun site. Maybe you already do.

  4. Following his phenomenal success at Brisbane, Ange failed to impress at Melbourne Victory. I have calmed down after reading the weekend’s shocking news.
    Ange is a good person. His overwhelming desire to be successful at the highest level of world football, has sadly swamped his traits of integrity and frankness in the mind of many Celtic fans. Levy will be holding the reins and levers at North London. Ange won’t like working with an autocrat or a panic merchant. Joe Hart was right. Ange should “stay where he is loved”.

  5. Some just have a natural flair for PR. In football, Jock Stein had it, Martin O’Neill and Gordon Strachan to some extent had it. Brendan Rodgers definitely did. Neil Lennon notably does not. In politics Tony Blair, Harold Wilson, David Cameron and the aforementioned BJ clearly had or have it, in Ted Heath, Gordon Brown, Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn it was equally conspicuous by its absence. The first four could convince you they were telling the truth when they were lying their head off, the other lot looked like they were lying when they were telling the truth..You could call it deeply dishonest and deceitful, or you could spin it as an essential business skill for career advancement. A form of emotional intelligence if you like.

  6. Ange brought some success to an institution 1,000 times greater than he can ever be.
    I genuinely believe that we,Celtic fans,gave him far more than he gave us. He IS a lucky man.
    Now he’s gone…thanks and goodbye. Next please.

  7. Hello James. An excellent article and well done for the research.

    He definitely knew how to manipulate a crowd (or the fans). I feel sorry for the Celtic support who follow the team through thick and thin. They invested heavily in him and gave him unprecedented love and support. Now he has treated that support like a ‘joke’ as he complained the press had done to him.

    We can now look back and analyse his hollow statements such as he was making reference to the great Jock and claiming he wanted to leave a legacy behind.

    As a football club we are an attractive prospect for any top manager. The only thing that goes against us is that we are stuck in Scotland and lack of finances which go with it. But as fans we should be ruthless and demand any manager (who in the back of their head want to use us as a stepping stone) nothing less than a 100% success, domestically.

    In reference to his trend of behaviour I heard in one of his interview that after his appointment he met Rodgers and kept in touch with him. Maybe it takes one (rat) to know one. I can see similarities.

    I’m not sure what the actions of Brendan and Ange will do to the long term stability of the club and the mental scars they could leave on supporters.

  8. Reading this article about how Ange has told the Australian fans, and now us, what we wanted to hear, having won our trophies, what I wrote on Twitter earlier today is as much as I can sum up about his character. A man of integrity is a man of integrity no matter the situation, Ange is not a man of integrity (as we all thought he was but he clearly had us all fooled and clearly some still are) if he’s only a man of integrity when it’s easy.

    I wish him well but I am raging with him, not because he’s gone, but because it now feels like everything he’s told us is now a lie.

  9. Sorry James but I still fail to see how Ange could have handled the whole spurs situation different than he did.
    Was in a situation where dammed if you did, dammed if you didn’t, and the result was always going to be hurt, but had to be delivered in the least effective manner and still believe Ange managed to do that.
    Yes the whole process was possibly going on for weeks, and the performances from the team were equally as bad.
    Even on our historic treble occasion the performance was piss poor for very long periods of the game.
    With that in mind, would we have been to happy with seen that sort of shite on show that has been there for a while now?
    There is also an art within a manager for getting out at the right time, and Ange seems to have mastered the art, hardly going to condemn him for that either.

    Making comparisons between Ange and Rodgers in the manner they left the club remains ridiculous imo.
    Ange was wanted to be kept within the club, yet next season was always going to be telling to just how good of a manager Ange really is?
    Rodgers was forced out of the club as his last 2 transfer windows showed the board weren’t prepared to invest within him, and yet the same happened at Leicester this season?
    So something within Rodgers that a board don’t like still remains?
    What the future holds for the majority of any football club is nothing more than a guessing game, with just how quickly thing’s can change within it.
    The scum will be rejoicing thinking we will fall flat on our faces next season.
    I just don’t believe that it will happen and will actually be far stronger than in the manner we finished this season, which can only ultimately end in ever more success heading our way.

    As a club we still remain a very attractive opportunity within a footballing career, for managers and players alike, and that will never change either.
    We still pay plenty of money to make them individuals very wealthy people.
    Yet we can’t offer anything like what the lure of the EPL has on offer, so Scottish football will always be undermined by it for the foreseeable anyway.
    As a club we still offer far more than any EPL club can do in terms of support, yet sadly that still isn’t enough for many within the game.
    In a world that is dominated by so much greed, and the footballing world has long ago been so dominant within that, then really how much money does it really take to find happiness within it?
    Maybe Ange stands to find out the answer to the question now, and still believe he won’t enjoy the answer

    1. I agree Johnno. Ange has been a consummate professional. I do not believe for a minute he led anyone on. Why would he want to undermine the celebrations? He’s no brute. No fan really knows him and neither does any journalist but the former need to vent their feeling for a time and the latter need to invent stories most of the time. He left a great legacy let’s hope things continue down the same road and wish him well. He must know he’s opted for the cauldron of the EPL not the pond of Scottish football but he’s a brave man and it’s probably now or never. I wish him well and will be taking an interest.

  10. Ange’s next employment after football will be politics,he blends right in there in with his LIES.
    Through the plebs a few good lines take on the so called journalists have the fans eating out of your hand then,boom!
    We all fell for his lies,Ange has now taken over the role as CHISLER from King which I didn’t think it was possible for anyone to tell anymore lies than he did.
    Think on that he played us all for fools and we laughed at King for doing this to sevco fans treating them as MUGS,and here we had our very own stuntman for King.

  11. And Ange said ” words cannot express the feeling of gratitude I have towards everyone involved at the football club.”

    From the Board of directors to the staff, this special group of players, and finally the most passionate supporters in the country, everyone has given me the best support manager could want”.

    Where have we heard these words before. These are his words when he was leaving Yokohama marinos.

    TBH I’m still shell shocked and in denial despite as you state above James the “warning signs”. I had real faith that he was staying despite all of the noise and gnashing of teeth from our media. My faith being based on the willing him to stay borne of the fact that we too need stability, as we like Spurs are, as of Ange were on our 4th manager in 4 years if you want to count Kennedy.

    There needs to be a revision of how our managerial contracts are set up by the board. A one year contract at the outset for any new manager with 3 years set after that if they do well in that first season. With a further option at the end of the 4th year. This will give us what I see as a MINIMUM period of stability required for a club like ours and for moving forward in the right way.

    But what is a contract these days, it’s just a piece of paper that gives us a bit of financial security, because if we unearthed another gem much like we do with our players another manager could easily walk away if the price is right.

    My only consolation for you all and possible comfort out of all of this is this. Ange has a track record of going back to where he came from to bring known players with him. I think he could quite possibly come back for Kyogo, Jota and CCV. I specifically mention those 3 as I think they would be most suited to the EPL and can make the step up. We could easily net £60 million from such a spree. Imagine what this could do for us.

    Theres gonna be some more brighter days. No matter who walks from the club we, the fans will always walk together. We’ll never walk alone. God bless you.all.

  12. He done a great job whilst he was in post, no denying that and portrayed himself as in it for the long haul and as such got the full support of the board and the fans. His achievements were amazing. Transforming no doubt and he said it would surprise us how long he’d be here. Well it did.
    For a man that has spent a decent amount of time in Japan leaving in such a terrible way, lying through his teeth, only reflects a self conceited narcissistic man without honour and the trouble is he would know that it would reflect so badly on him but seems not to care. He just, like your Boris Johnson comparison, seems to say what he thinks you want to hear.
    Far better to have been upfront sometime ago about his ambition when clearly the offer was made and agreed with Levy. He could have reached an agreement with Spurs to come out and do so, told the truth of the opportunity on offer to him as one he simply couldn’t turn away from and state that it’s with great regret that he came to that decision but thanks for the love and memories you gave me at Celtic.
    The Cup final could have been his swansong, good managers are always probably gonna move on from Celtic but he and we could have had a much better and more appreciative ending. There’s no honesty or integrity building another lie on a lie.
    We were always gonna beat ICT so this tosh about allowing us to enjoy the day and building on another lie was just another example of his clearly evident manipulative and cowardly character. Given more backing and support by our board and fans than any other manager he’s returned it with vile lies and a debasing backstabbing. Unwilling as he was to face our fans with the truth, he takes flight swooping off to London I hope his career plummets and good riddance. HH

  13. Very insightful article. Now that we know that he’s gone, we know that he was leaving. It wouldn’t have been good to announce this before a Cup Final, however, it now appears this was planned way before that, which means Celtic fans were being misled.
    The rolling contract was understandable from Celtic’s point of view, in the first instance and at that time. The refusal of an improved contract on the manager’s part makes it clear that his statement about people being surprised as to how long he would stay was disingenuous, even if somewhat entirely accurate.
    There are other good managers out there but the club must secure its player recruitment process which has been instrumental in the team’s success.

  14. Great article and the fact that he has previous makes it even worse. His mantra was “we never stop” but that should change to “I never stop”. It was always about him and not the club. We need a Stein,McNeil,Hay or Burns a person who wants to be a great Celtic manager. Our club deserves the best and not another 2 year project manager. The club needs stability and somebody who wants to be there longer term.

  15. AP is completely done now. Great article James.

    We all need to move on now. We cannot keep focusing on something we cannot control.

    Need to look forward to the next manager and accept this hopefully could be a stepping stone to greater things.

    The club is bigger than just one man.

  16. I’ve said on a couple of sites before I read your piece James that Ange has played the biggest confidence trick ever on the Celtic support and we fell for it hook, line and sinker. Now I’ve read your piece I know I’m right, all Ange is bothered about is himself. How much of a narcissist do you have to be to do that to supporters who idolised you? I hope now that Ange fails terribly at Spurs that job is a poisoned chalice and he could yet run the day he left Celtic. There’s no doubt he’s a good manager and he performed miracles from the shitshow he inherited but that all means nothing, he’s dead to me now and I hope he gets his comeuppance at Spurs. I wouldn’t wish him any health problems or anything I just hope his fall from grace is an almighty one.

  17. Ange did a fantastic job for Celtic has brought in some good players who we will earn Celtic a fortune”so thanks Ange enjoy your new club and hope you can give them success. He now has life changing security for his family so who would not jump at this chance 4 year contract millions of pounds in the bank no contest and a great club and league to manage in wish Celtic played there.

  18. Ange is a man of integrity, a complete professional not a narcissist. If people feel fooled it is because they are fools. Football is a whole world away from the Jock Stein and Tommy Burns days. It’s a big business now with millions to be made for the best. If you look at the things Ange said there’s nothing designed to mislead. They were all true at the time. I wish him well and will be taking an interest in his new team/league.

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